In Vegas, the luck of your hand always depends on what card you’ve been dealt and whether the deck is working for or against you. For the Gossip Girl, fandom there just seems to be a few too many cards that work against the whole fandom and they derive from this group of spades that want to beat people with anger and discontent. 
 
As I began to search boards I had once called my internet “homes,” I stumbled on hostility and personal attacks against people. It took me by surprise that boards like Fanforum and GGI let other posters personally berate and mock posters without stepping in and saying anything. When I posted, members were not tolerated if they spoke harshly to or about fans, but now it has turned into the normal trend. In my short time back, I kept searching and searching for the origin of this nasty, mean spirited posting. It took some digging (and a little nudge from the White Rabbit) but I found the source, and it’s called GGANON. It’s a livejournal that consists of people who’s joy is making fun of posters, planting personal emails of people they dislike, proclaiming how much more intelligent they are than everyone else, and having fun at the expense of people they don’t know.
 
Scrolling through this site is like walking into mine field. It consists of people posting about Gossip Girl and the actors, but what makes it particularly disturbing is their obsession with other fans. I would say that over half of this livejournal is fan bashing more than anything else. Combing through here, I feel like these people don’t like the show, but just like to complain and belittle other fans (who are not even there to defend themselves). The anger that originates in this board slowly trickles into the rest of the fandom due to the fact that these very same people are active members on other boards. How do I know this? They talk about boards like Fanforum, TWOP and Gossipgirlss  on GGAnon. Let me give you an example. Here they are talking about posting on TWOP :
 
 
http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/2513.html?thread=7417809#t7417809
Did I totally imagine that Blair told Louis that she loves him? I could swear she did in S4, but Chuckistan is going on about how Blair never will on the TWOP board.
 
They seem to get offended by others expressing opinions on boards too:
 
http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/2513.html?thread=7416017#t7416017
“Look at who is posting it, Tversky & her psycho minions with no brains of their own they just repeat what she says.

They’re all from SCAB”
 
http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/2513.html?thread=7421393#t7421393
 
“theyre desperate posting at twop”
 
 
 
 
 
One posted what the moderator from TWOP had sent them
 
  http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/2513.html?thread=7427281#t7427281 :
 
That makes it seem more like you guys are trolling and targeting posters (including Prinnie) instead of the other way around.
I have heard plenty about Gossip Girl sites that have agendas about how and what to post on TWoP. It’s not endorsed by TWoP, so I would recommend against it.
thanks,
Mars

“IDGI
he still believe Prinnie is the victim and we are the ones posting Rules on how to behave @TWOP. He smokes the same shit chuckistans are inhaling”

Here are some  responses: “Poor Chuckistan. Such victims. POOR PRINNIE”

“lol, mars. thought you were smarter than that.”
 
I commend this moderator for seeing that other fans can post on boards if they want to. It seems like the anon crowd is missing the fact that people have every right to post wherever they want if done in a respectful manner. Again, the anon crowd seems more angry about people having a differing opinion and their inability to accept that not everyone agrees with them. I pity them because if this is how they react in their everyday lives (making fun of, harassing, and wanting to expel others’ opinions because they don’t agree) then their lives must not be very pleasant.
 
“You guys have the superior ship in every way that’s true so no need to reach for patterns that obviously aren’t there and feel threatened by delusional cb stans. They’re  the ones who should be threatened.”
 
 I’m not sure what fans should be threatened by or even why someone would claim to have superior shipping preferences on a fictional show, but let’s get to the heart of this discussion. From a lot of what I’ve read on this board, they would rather speak ill of fans they don’t know in real life all because they like another couple. Every page of this board is stained with insults about other posters, even personal attacks, and the worst part is it’s done behind the cowardice of an anonymous name. I ask, is someone “superior” if they have to hide behind anonymity? Are you better because you fling insults all in the name of shipping? 
 
Let’s take a glance at what this “intelligent” conversation boils down to:
" Dumbfucks say what?" 
"damnnnn….at this rate Ed is going to be done after GG, seriously, he needs to take care of that fugliness" 
"You can take your spoilers and fuck off now xd."
 
With all this “intellectual” conversation it was easy to see why the fandom had turned into the state it has. Remember the movie Mean Girls? I won’t go as far to compliment them by saying they are the most popular in this gossip girl community (else they would not hide behind the “anon”), but they have created a similar mentality in the way fans treat each other from board to board. The cattiness and vicious attitude is carried with them as they post on sites such as TWOP, GGI, and Fan Forum (where I suspect some are moderators). The Mean Girl attitude is even extended to a group called the AOS on fanforum who exemplify why “elite” groups on boards are built on nothing more than disdain for others and the characters they prefer. Their “plight” will be discussed in another post.
 
I had hoped that most of these posters were teenagers who could mature in time, and that it was just childishness breeding this disturbing behavior. To my dismay, that was not the case. In fact, not only are some of these posters adults, but they are adults that are okay with making fun of fans whose first language may not be English. 
 
(The following can be found here: http://i.imgur.com/7Kffx.png )
 
“lol I feel bad for finding them hilarious because I’m an ESL teacher. But Chuckistingrish really is too much. There’s a reason I don’t allow my students to discuss Gossip Girl because once this Russian girl mentioned “Meester Chuck” and I almost fell over laughing”

This is an adult teacher not just making fun of people who don’t speak English but actually limiting her students from discussing it because she doesn’t like how this girl, who is apparently a Chuck fan, talked about the show. Never mind that Anon posters hate Chuck fans, what disturbs me is that someone who actually teaches children is posting on a message board talking about her students in such a way.
 
“Yeah, I work in the immigration law field, so I feel kind of bad too. I also speak more or less fluent Spanish, so Lord knows I know how hard it is to master another language. That being said, some of the ESL fans seem like they’re pretty dumb in any language. Their thoughts seem pretty stupid, and then gets exacerbated by the fact that they can’t read or write English that well.
Like imagine if Prinnie were an ESL fan…”
 
This “professional” who you would hope would sympathize with people, considering he or she probably sees a lot of unfortunate cases, instead is okay with making fun of those who don’t speak English as a first language because she doesn’t agree with their preferences in the fandom. I don’t think anyone who speaks another language is stupid simply because it’s harder for them to express their opinion in English. I’ve met many people from different countries who are intelligent but struggle with English. I don’t make fun of them because they like something I don’t.
 
http://i.imgur.com/Rt7wz.png
 
“lol netty is the worst, back in the day she used to whine and complain when she thought people were ignoring her on purpose when in fact, all her posts were mindnumbingly stupid, you can’t reply to her.”
 
I’ve seen the poster they’re talking about and all I can do is commend her for having the guts to come on boards and post. It’s hard enough to post on some of these boards if English is your first language, but posting as a second language with these biddies takes balls. The ones I pity are those who talk like this about fans and don’t have the guts to put their name next to what they say. 
 
The problem with this trend on GGAnon is it hasn’t remained on this board, instead it has spread out across the fandom and to other boards. Why, you ask? A simple answer: the people who post on GGAnon are the same people who spread this distaste for the show, the insults on other sites, and who make other Gossip Girl sites a horrible place to even venture into. Let’s take a look at fans bashing other fans on Fanforum, where even the administrator breaks his own rules to ridicule and make fun of poster:
 
Buffyinspike: “Any other time I would agree, but I’ve seen some pretty crazy things from Chair fans. The non “stable” ones are obviously in the minority though, and the Chair fans here prove it IMO.”
 
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/zCTuh.png
 
(And this poster is “stable” for posting on boards about other fans?) 
 
Adjjb (Karen part of the AOS) : “You didn’t read the stuff that was posted her(e) last year. Take back the boards memos etc… http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/a6ZPZ-1.png
 
(Funny, I would never want to go to a board that treated fans like this or allowed fans to be so blatantly rude to others)
 
“If some people were that organized and used that free time they obviously have more productive causes…you know, things that really matter in this planet that we live in, the world would be a much better place. Even going out for a walk and breathing some fresh air would be a good start.” 
 
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/7Gtm3.png
 
(Ironically, this poster is judging fans for being online talking about other fans. Maybe she should read her own posts) 
 
 
P&B4ever: “scab wasn’t threatening enough I guess” 
 
“They’ll stop wanting a real Chuck Bass & understand he’s interesting & intriguing but only a fictional character” (I believe this person ships Penn and Blake so I’m curious as to why she is judging anyone.) 
 
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/JHuEu-1.png
 
 
 
Jerry (the Administrator of the board): “it never ceases to amaze me concerning the lengths of insanity that some people will got to over a tv show” 
 
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/FqYJq-1.png
 
 (Does that include breaking your own board rules and letting other fans ridicule other fans because you like one fictional couple over another?) 
 
The thing is about this board is Jerry, the very person I just quoted, has rules he made on Fanforum stating: 
 
http://www.fanforum.com/f20/announcement-official-fan-forum-rules-guidelines-updated-9-11-11.html
 
“Be respectful. Not everyone is going to agree with you at all times.
It’s perfectly fine to disagree with someone as long as it is done
respectfully, but do not attack other posters. Please treat other
members with the same respect and courtesy that you would want for
yourself.” 
 
 
Is it respectful to make fun of fans in the name of fiction? Is it respectful to call fans crazy because they don’t agree with you? Is it ok to call them names like “Chuckistans” (http://www.fanforum.com/62593524-post114.html) Unfortunately this behavior is everywhere and this is just one example of what has infected these boards. What’s sad is administrators or moderators who could step in and don’t, simply because they prefer to let their fictional couple dictate who is treated properly on boards and who is not. It’s why you have these vapid, rude and childish posters being allowed to do whatever they want. And people wonder why a lot of others stay away from boards such as these and the bottom feeders that dwell in them?
 
But fans, at least you can put names to those who post on GGAnon now. 
 
 
 Don’t think they are upset about this, either because they aren’t. Like Mean Girls, they have a pack of girls following the way Regina George acted and responded to other people around her. They didn’t care how Regina was acting, as long as they were “in,” then whomever they hurt along the way was of no consequence to them. As long as they themselves were happy, that made everything right. It’s a similar attitude this group has. If one is willing to act like a miserable, spoiled child, then they all are as long as they remain and follow the clique then everything is fine. 
 
 
Another consistent theme seems to be that this group that posts here are more concerned with Chuck and Blair fans than any pairing or pairings they like.
 
"Yeah, they’re super creepy about it too. WE’RE NOT GAMBLERS, WE’RE VERY CONFIDENT, THE INEVITABLE CONCLUSION." 
"Oh Chair fan [I do not put the victimized names on here], I can’t wait for DB to have hot shirtless sex that will blind you forever. Then we’ll see what type of brother-sister chemistry they share.
 
They can’t help but to care and obsess with what Chuck and Blair fans are doing. 
 
One of the tumblrs they support is called fuckingchairfans. Here’s the link http://fuckingchairfans.tumblr.com/. Remember, these posters are the most “intelligent” and “sophisticated” groups in the fandom. They have the “superior” ship and are “ classier” than Chuck and Blair fans.
 
While not the most intelligent post I’ve seen, this one sums up why GGAnon even exists, “I don’t know why I take pleasure in Chuckistan butthurt so much, but it’s a sickness I’m not willing to part with.” 
 
Some of these posters may actually be Dan and Blair fans, Serena and Nate fans, or Penn, Leighton, Chace, and Blake fans, etc. Their mere existence on this board and the spiteful nonsense that takes place in the fandom, according to them, is all because people like the character of Chuck Bass and the couple of Chuck and Blair. I do not care who people “ship,” I don’t even care what character you like or dislike, but this small faction consists of people who like seeing other fans miserable. Calling them names, personally attacking them, lashing out at fans all over boards and on twitter in the name of hating on a fictional character and pairing. Have we as a society come to this? We are vulgar and rude to strangers because they like a fictional pairing we don’t? Aren’t there more important things we can do with our day and for society, rather than insult and take jabs at real people all in the name of fiction? Is it necessary? Isn’t there enough wrong with the world right now?
 
 
Let’s get one thing straight: I don’t particularly care what these people “ship.” It makes no difference to me one way or another. It’s just the hypocritical complaining about other posters and who they ship. Most of the posts are hateful and directed towards people they call “Chuckistans” or “Chuckstans”. It seems to be a derogatory term about Chuck Bass fans. 
 
“2011-09-01 06:10 pm UTC (link)
I would say he writers now are aware people think Chuck is evil,and doesn’t love Lair at all. They are going to lay it on real thick I bet, they re going to be made fun of so bad because you don’t make chuck that horrible than give him a do and have him save ducks and thibk its believable. Richard Lawson might come back just for this!!! Lulz”
 
 ”Never in my life have I seen show writers so scared of a loud group of fans on the internet,they are the minority!The casual fans outnumber us all and as ling as it is not boring they will watch. It’s ok to let Chair go writers,it really is no one will die and everyone will get over it eventually” 
(I bet she’s really wishing she didn’t say this considering the terrible rating the show is getting. FYI: Ratings are casual fans)

[IMG]http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/casualfans.png[/IMG]


I think that what they don’t understand is that casual viewers are EXACTLY the people who are still obsessed with Chuck Bass and Blair and Chuck. Casual viewers don’t watch the show religiously and don’t agonize over it like we do, so the horrible things Chuck does do get glossed over in their minds. No one cares or talks about Dan and DB outside of the immediate circle of rabid fans that we are a part of (and, of course, the spoiler sources who try to fan the flames of our shipper wars). Dan Humphrey has not permeated into pop culture the way Chuck Bass has, and there’s no way around it. The group on GGAnon spins their own tales as to what the general audience actually thinks or views of the show. They have their own sense of what it true, but if you visit Facebook and Twitter (where more casual fans gather) Chuck Bass is a very popular character in the fandom and is the only character to date to actually trend (several times) with trends like “Chuck Bass”, “Poor Chuck”, “If Chuck,” and “Chuck’s” to name a few. If they perceive Chuck is a villain, then they are failing to watch the show at this point and are instead being guided solely by their hatred. Never mind what is on their screens or what writers are saying. As long as it’s in their heads they perceive it as right, which is why they can call other fans crazy and pretend it’s valid because they perceive it as true. The thing they fail to discern in all this is Chuck may be fictional, but his fans are not. I brought Chuck into the equation to point out that just like their hatred for fiction, it bleeds into reality when they start openly attacking real people over this. 
 
 
All of these children must be making their parents proud with the “intellectual” conversation that unfolds in this livejournal forum. I understand that some are around 12 or 13 but even with America’s schools not performing up to par, I expected a little better than this.
 
From making fun of posters who enjoy the show or a couple to criticizing actors on their looks, this group acts like nothing but children spending their days on computers and failing to do anything decent or noteworthy with their lives. They don’t have the courage to post their names but, remember, they are the “intelligent” ones, they are the “superior” group of the fandom and, yes, they are the cowards who make this fandom the nasty mess it has become. We all grow up at some point. Whether adults or teenagers I hop that ,maybe, just maybe, when this show is over they can find something else to do with those “intellectual” minds of theirs.
 
 
 

In Vegas, the luck of your hand always depends on what card you’ve been dealt and whether the deck is working for or against you. For the Gossip Girl, fandom there just seems to be a few too many cards that work against the whole fandom and they derive from this group of spades that want to beat people with anger and discontent.

 

As I began to search boards I had once called my internet “homes,” I stumbled on hostility and personal attacks against people. It took me by surprise that boards like Fanforum and GGI let other posters personally berate and mock posters without stepping in and saying anything. When I posted, members were not tolerated if they spoke harshly to or about fans, but now it has turned into the normal trend. In my short time back, I kept searching and searching for the origin of this nasty, mean spirited posting. It took some digging (and a little nudge from the White Rabbit) but I found the source, and it’s called GGANON. It’s a livejournal that consists of people who’s joy is making fun of posters, planting personal emails of people they dislike, proclaiming how much more intelligent they are than everyone else, and having fun at the expense of people they don’t know.

 

Scrolling through this site is like walking into mine field. It consists of people posting about Gossip Girl and the actors, but what makes it particularly disturbing is their obsession with other fans. I would say that over half of this livejournal is fan bashing more than anything else. Combing through here, I feel like these people don’t like the show, but just like to complain and belittle other fans (who are not even there to defend themselves). The anger that originates in this board slowly trickles into the rest of the fandom due to the fact that these very same people are active members on other boards. How do I know this? They talk about boards like Fanforum, TWOP and Gossipgirlss  on GGAnon. Let me give you an example. Here they are talking about posting on TWOP :

 

 

http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/2513.html?thread=7417809#t7417809

Did I totally imagine that Blair told Louis that she loves him? I could swear she did in S4, but Chuckistan is going on about how Blair never will on the TWOP board.

 

They seem to get offended by others expressing opinions on boards too:

 

http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/2513.html?thread=7416017#t7416017

“Look at who is posting it, Tversky & her psycho minions with no brains of their own they just repeat what she says.

They’re all from SCAB”

 

http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/2513.html?thread=7421393#t7421393

 

“theyre desperate posting at twop”

 

 

 

 

 

One posted what the moderator from TWOP had sent them

 

  http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/2513.html?thread=7427281#t7427281 :

 

That makes it seem more like you guys are trolling and targeting posters (including Prinnie) instead of the other way around.

I have heard plenty about Gossip Girl sites that have agendas about how and what to post on TWoP. It’s not endorsed by TWoP, so I would recommend against it.

thanks,

Mars

“IDGI

he still believe Prinnie is the victim and we are the ones posting Rules on how to behave @TWOP. He smokes the same shit chuckistans are inhaling”

Here are some  responses: “Poor Chuckistan. Such victims. POOR PRINNIE”

“lol, mars. thought you were smarter than that.”

 

I commend this moderator for seeing that other fans can post on boards if they want to. It seems like the anon crowd is missing the fact that people have every right to post wherever they want if done in a respectful manner. Again, the anon crowd seems more angry about people having a differing opinion and their inability to accept that not everyone agrees with them. I pity them because if this is how they react in their everyday lives (making fun of, harassing, and wanting to expel others’ opinions because they don’t agree) then their lives must not be very pleasant.

 

“You guys have the superior ship in every way that’s true so no need to reach for patterns that obviously aren’t there and feel threatened by delusional cb stans. They’re  the ones who should be threatened.”

 

 I’m not sure what fans should be threatened by or even why someone would claim to have superior shipping preferences on a fictional show, but let’s get to the heart of this discussion. From a lot of what I’ve read on this board, they would rather speak ill of fans they don’t know in real life all because they like another couple. Every page of this board is stained with insults about other posters, even personal attacks, and the worst part is it’s done behind the cowardice of an anonymous name. I ask, is someone “superior” if they have to hide behind anonymity? Are you better because you fling insults all in the name of shipping?

 

Let’s take a glance at what this “intelligent” conversation boils down to:

" Dumbfucks say what?"

"damnnnn….at this rate Ed is going to be done after GG, seriously, he needs to take care of that fugliness"

"You can take your spoilers and fuck off now xd."

 

With all this “intellectual” conversation it was easy to see why the fandom had turned into the state it has. Remember the movie Mean Girls? I won’t go as far to compliment them by saying they are the most popular in this gossip girl community (else they would not hide behind the “anon”), but they have created a similar mentality in the way fans treat each other from board to board. The cattiness and vicious attitude is carried with them as they post on sites such as TWOP, GGI, and Fan Forum (where I suspect some are moderators). The Mean Girl attitude is even extended to a group called the AOS on fanforum who exemplify why “elite” groups on boards are built on nothing more than disdain for others and the characters they prefer. Their “plight” will be discussed in another post.

 

I had hoped that most of these posters were teenagers who could mature in time, and that it was just childishness breeding this disturbing behavior. To my dismay, that was not the case. In fact, not only are some of these posters adults, but they are adults that are okay with making fun of fans whose first language may not be English.

 

(The following can be found here: http://i.imgur.com/7Kffx.png )

 

“lol I feel bad for finding them hilarious because I’m an ESL teacher. But Chuckistingrish really is too much. There’s a reason I don’t allow my students to discuss Gossip Girl because once this Russian girl mentioned “Meester Chuck” and I almost fell over laughing”

This is an adult teacher not just making fun of people who don’t speak English but actually limiting her students from discussing it because she doesn’t like how this girl, who is apparently a Chuck fan, talked about the show. Never mind that Anon posters hate Chuck fans, what disturbs me is that someone who actually teaches children is posting on a message board talking about her students in such a way.

 

“Yeah, I work in the immigration law field, so I feel kind of bad too. I also speak more or less fluent Spanish, so Lord knows I know how hard it is to master another language. That being said, some of the ESL fans seem like they’re pretty dumb in any language. Their thoughts seem pretty stupid, and then gets exacerbated by the fact that they can’t read or write English that well.

Like imagine if Prinnie were an ESL fan…”

 

This “professional” who you would hope would sympathize with people, considering he or she probably sees a lot of unfortunate cases, instead is okay with making fun of those who don’t speak English as a first language because she doesn’t agree with their preferences in the fandom. I don’t think anyone who speaks another language is stupid simply because it’s harder for them to express their opinion in English. I’ve met many people from different countries who are intelligent but struggle with English. I don’t make fun of them because they like something I don’t.

 

http://i.imgur.com/Rt7wz.png

 

lol netty is the worst, back in the day she used to whine and complain when she thought people were ignoring her on purpose when in fact, all her posts were mindnumbingly stupid, you can’t reply to her.”

 

I’ve seen the poster they’re talking about and all I can do is commend her for having the guts to come on boards and post. It’s hard enough to post on some of these boards if English is your first language, but posting as a second language with these biddies takes balls. The ones I pity are those who talk like this about fans and don’t have the guts to put their name next to what they say.

 

The problem with this trend on GGAnon is it hasn’t remained on this board, instead it has spread out across the fandom and to other boards. Why, you ask? A simple answer: the people who post on GGAnon are the same people who spread this distaste for the show, the insults on other sites, and who make other Gossip Girl sites a horrible place to even venture into. Let’s take a look at fans bashing other fans on Fanforum, where even the administrator breaks his own rules to ridicule and make fun of poster:

 

Buffyinspike: “Any other time I would agree, but I’ve seen some pretty crazy things from Chair fans. The non “stable” ones are obviously in the minority though, and the Chair fans here prove it IMO.”

 

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/zCTuh.png

 

(And this poster is “stable” for posting on boards about other fans?)

 

Adjjb (Karen part of the AOS) : “You didn’t read the stuff that was posted her(e) last year. Take back the boards memos etc… http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/a6ZPZ-1.png

 

(Funny, I would never want to go to a board that treated fans like this or allowed fans to be so blatantly rude to others)

 

“If some people were that organized and used that free time they obviously have more productive causes…you know, things that really matter in this planet that we live in, the world would be a much better place. Even going out for a walk and breathing some fresh air would be a good start.”

 

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/7Gtm3.png

 

(Ironically, this poster is judging fans for being online talking about other fans. Maybe she should read her own posts)

 

 

P&B4ever: “scab wasn’t threatening enough I guess”

 

“They’ll stop wanting a real Chuck Bass & understand he’s interesting & intriguing but only a fictional character” (I believe this person ships Penn and Blake so I’m curious as to why she is judging anyone.)

 

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/JHuEu-1.png

 

 

 

Jerry (the Administrator of the board): “it never ceases to amaze me concerning the lengths of insanity that some people will got to over a tv show”

 

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/FqYJq-1.png

 

 (Does that include breaking your own board rules and letting other fans ridicule other fans because you like one fictional couple over another?)

 

The thing is about this board is Jerry, the very person I just quoted, has rules he made on Fanforum stating:

 

http://www.fanforum.com/f20/announcement-official-fan-forum-rules-guidelines-updated-9-11-11.html

 

“Be respectful. Not everyone is going to agree with you at all times.

It’s perfectly fine to disagree with someone as long as it is done

respectfully, but do not attack other posters. Please treat other

members with the same respect and courtesy that you would want for

yourself.”

 

 

Is it respectful to make fun of fans in the name of fiction? Is it respectful to call fans crazy because they don’t agree with you? Is it ok to call them names like “Chuckistans” (http://www.fanforum.com/62593524-post114.html) Unfortunately this behavior is everywhere and this is just one example of what has infected these boards. What’s sad is administrators or moderators who could step in and don’t, simply because they prefer to let their fictional couple dictate who is treated properly on boards and who is not. It’s why you have these vapid, rude and childish posters being allowed to do whatever they want. And people wonder why a lot of others stay away from boards such as these and the bottom feeders that dwell in them?

 

But fans, at least you can put names to those who post on GGAnon now.

 

 

 Don’t think they are upset about this, either because they aren’t. Like Mean Girls, they have a pack of girls following the way Regina George acted and responded to other people around her. They didn’t care how Regina was acting, as long as they were “in,” then whomever they hurt along the way was of no consequence to them. As long as they themselves were happy, that made everything right. It’s a similar attitude this group has. If one is willing to act like a miserable, spoiled child, then they all are as long as they remain and follow the clique then everything is fine.

 

 

Another consistent theme seems to be that this group that posts here are more concerned with Chuck and Blair fans than any pairing or pairings they like.

 

"Yeah, they’re super creepy about it too. WE’RE NOT GAMBLERS, WE’RE VERY CONFIDENT, THE INEVITABLE CONCLUSION."

"Oh Chair fan [I do not put the victimized names on here], I can’t wait for DB to have hot shirtless sex that will blind you forever. Then we’ll see what type of brother-sister chemistry they share.

 

They can’t help but to care and obsess with what Chuck and Blair fans are doing.

 

One of the tumblrs they support is called fuckingchairfans. Here’s the link http://fuckingchairfans.tumblr.com/. Remember, these posters are the most “intelligent” and “sophisticated” groups in the fandom. They have the “superior” ship and are “ classier” than Chuck and Blair fans.

 

While not the most intelligent post I’ve seen, this one sums up why GGAnon even exists, “I don’t know why I take pleasure in Chuckistan butthurt so much, but it’s a sickness I’m not willing to part with.” 

 

Some of these posters may actually be Dan and Blair fans, Serena and Nate fans, or Penn, Leighton, Chace, and Blake fans, etc. Their mere existence on this board and the spiteful nonsense that takes place in the fandom, according to them, is all because people like the character of Chuck Bass and the couple of Chuck and Blair. I do not care who people “ship,” I don’t even care what character you like or dislike, but this small faction consists of people who like seeing other fans miserable. Calling them names, personally attacking them, lashing out at fans all over boards and on twitter in the name of hating on a fictional character and pairing. Have we as a society come to this? We are vulgar and rude to strangers because they like a fictional pairing we don’t? Aren’t there more important things we can do with our day and for society, rather than insult and take jabs at real people all in the name of fiction? Is it necessary? Isn’t there enough wrong with the world right now?

 

 

Let’s get one thing straight: I don’t particularly care what these people “ship.” It makes no difference to me one way or another. It’s just the hypocritical complaining about other posters and who they ship. Most of the posts are hateful and directed towards people they call “Chuckistans” or “Chuckstans”. It seems to be a derogatory term about Chuck Bass fans. 

 

“2011-09-01 06:10 pm UTC (link)

I would say he writers now are aware people think Chuck is evil,and doesn’t love Lair at all. They are going to lay it on real thick I bet, they re going to be made fun of so bad because you don’t make chuck that horrible than give him a do and have him save ducks and thibk its believable. Richard Lawson might come back just for this!!! Lulz”

 ”Never in my life have I seen show writers so scared of a loud group of fans on the internet,they are the minority!The casual fans outnumber us all and as ling as it is not boring they will watch. It’s ok to let Chair go writers,it really is no one will die and everyone will get over it eventually”

(I bet she’s really wishing she didn’t say this considering the terrible rating the show is getting. FYI: Ratings are casual fans)


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I think that what they don’t understand is that casual viewers are EXACTLY the people who are still obsessed with Chuck Bass and Blair and Chuck. Casual viewers don’t watch the show religiously and don’t agonize over it like we do, so the horrible things Chuck does do get glossed over in their minds. No one cares or talks about Dan and DB outside of the immediate circle of rabid fans that we are a part of (and, of course, the spoiler sources who try to fan the flames of our shipper wars). Dan Humphrey has not permeated into pop culture the way Chuck Bass has, and there’s no way around it. The group on GGAnon spins their own tales as to what the general audience actually thinks or views of the show. They have their own sense of what it true, but if you visit Facebook and Twitter (where more casual fans gather) Chuck Bass is a very popular character in the fandom and is the only character to date to actually trend (several times) with trends like “Chuck Bass”, “Poor Chuck”, “If Chuck,” and “Chuck’s” to name a few. If they perceive Chuck is a villain, then they are failing to watch the show at this point and are instead being guided solely by their hatred. Never mind what is on their screens or what writers are saying. As long as it’s in their heads they perceive it as right, which is why they can call other fans crazy and pretend it’s valid because they perceive it as true. The thing they fail to discern in all this is Chuck may be fictional, but his fans are not. I brought Chuck into the equation to point out that just like their hatred for fiction, it bleeds into reality when they start openly attacking real people over this.

 

 

All of these children must be making their parents proud with the “intellectual” conversation that unfolds in this livejournal forum. I understand that some are around 12 or 13 but even with America’s schools not performing up to par, I expected a little better than this.

 

From making fun of posters who enjoy the show or a couple to criticizing actors on their looks, this group acts like nothing but children spending their days on computers and failing to do anything decent or noteworthy with their lives. They don’t have the courage to post their names but, remember, they are the “intelligent” ones, they are the “superior” group of the fandom and, yes, they are the cowards who make this fandom the nasty mess it has become. We all grow up at some point. Whether adults or teenagers I hop that ,maybe, just maybe, when this show is over they can find something else to do with those “intellectual” minds of theirs.

 

 

 

Ratings: How Gossip Girl Writers Are Gashing Their Own Show  
 
Reading about the ratings for Gossip Girl and the way the writers are talking about them, the situation instantly reminded me of a book: The Picture of Dorian Gray. If you haven’t read it, please do yourself a favor and walk away from the time you spend trashing each other in order to check out this book. It’s about a man, Dorian, who comes to the conclusion that youth and beauty is everything, so he sells his soul. Rather than aging himself, his portrait does the aging for him. Throughout the book, he commits sins (even going to the point of murdering a dear friend) that disfigure and age the painting. In the end, Dorian attempts to transform himself only to find he’s done it solely on a superficial level, therefore the painting remains disfigured. Finally, shamed and disgusted, he plunges a knife into the painting and, in turn, he dies disfigured and old while the painting is turned back into the beautiful figure of Dorian at a young age. 
 
Now, you ask, what does this have to do with Gossip Girl and why do I think it relates? It’s simple. The Gossip Girl writers have created their own Dorian Gray tragedy, and it can be shown through the ratings and the words the producers themselves use to create a smoke screen, much like Dorian Gray did to the world as he lied and tainted it along the way. Let’s first take a look at the ratings themselves, using this article by an unbiased site that is purely dictating numbers to us every week: 
 
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/07/cw-ratings-collapse-could-cause-more-than-expected-number-of-show-cancellations/118878/
 
“The ratings decline is so steep that I fear the methods of the Renew / Cancel Index are not entirely reliable against such a situation, and that more shows than the ~2 cancellations predicted by the four shows in the normally 50/50 “toss up” range may occur at the end of the season. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if some combination of four shows (the most likely being Nikita, Hart Of Dixie, Ringer & Gossip Girl) were canceled in a desperate bid to get as many new shows on the air as possible next Fall to try and find something that works.”
 
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/26/mailbag-why-didnt-you-take-gossip-girl-off-the-bubble-yet/117704/?utm_campaign=WP%3ETwitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
 
“So basically if Warner Bros wants another season of Gossip Girl, it will almost certainly get it. We can’t discern if that’s really the case based on comments from the producers and sadly, they won’t, you know, just tell us.”
 
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/24/monday-final-ratings-gossip-girl-hart-of-dixie-adjusted-down/117518/
 
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/17/tv-ratings-monday-alcatraz-premiere-tops-terra-nova/116692/comment-page-16/#comments
 
 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/27/most-and-least-watched-shows-of-fall-updated/
 
 
 
 
Now let us take a look at what our Dorian (the producers and show runners) are trying to sell to the audience:
 
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/20/gossip-girl-scoop-100th-episode/
 
“We’ve had no one saying to us, ‘Wrap it up. This is the last season.’ So we’re not [treating the season finale] as such,” said EP Joshua Safran, hoping to quell some fans’ fears that their favorite teen drama would soon fall victim to dwindling ratings.”
 
 
http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/whenmdashand_howmdashwill_gossip_girl/288542#ixzz1ktuy0yOvhttp://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/whenmdashand_howmdashwill_gossip_girl/288542
 
While the writers couldn’t include all of the nods to previous episodes that they wanted to, Safran says “they’ll be on the DVD.” Still, if you are one of those viewers who tuned out in the last season or two (Tsk-tsk!), Safran says, “I think that you can actually jump back in.” While he wouldn’t say much about the plot of the milestone hour, Safran teases, “I think it’s a really great episode and every one of our leads has a full story.”
 
 
Which is it Mr. Safran? Is it the last season or is it not? You know you’ve lost a lot of the fanbase if you’re saying "Still, if you are one of those viewers who tuned out in the last season or two.”  Are you fearful that you’ve lost too many viewers? And if you are, then why not rectify that in your show? Why not give fans something to look forward to instead of the ambiguous answers you give to the media? I understand there were a ton of leaks last year, but being ambiguous with your audience has actually made the audience distrust the writers more – and who could blame them when the stories are in the state they are? I have suffered through clips on you tube just so I could write this Tumblr comprehensively, and I found it just sad what the remaining fans are being put through. If you have been a fan of this show since the beginning, then you know what I’m talking about. Like New York Magazine, who no longer calls it the “ Greatest Shows of Our Time” but just a “show of our time.”  I can’t say this is a show worthy of staying on the air anymore, and the best reflection is the ratings. The question is, are the producers feeling the pressure yet? I would assume they are if they keep saying thing such as this:
 
http://www.vulture.com/2012/01/mayor-bloomberg-proclaims-today-gossip-girl-day.html
 
“Next week’s episode will revitalize you,” Safran promised, indicating that the show will contain a Big Twist—and possibly reveal the identity of Gossip Girl herself. And after that, Savage assured us, there will be many, many more episodes to come. “We don’t plan on ending the show this season,” she said. Yay?
 
 
If this episode was meant to “revitalize” the show and bring viewers back, then you are facing one big dilemma because while the ratings went up to a 1.39 / 0.7 demo (it’s the second highest rated episode of the year, dismal in itself) – it shrunk back to a 1.28/0.6 demo the following episode. As I write this, the show just hit a series low in allthe demographics. It achieved a measly 0.5 in the 18-49 demo, a 0.8 in the all-important women’s demo and total viewers were 1.13. Revitalize means to “ give new life or vigor.” This revitalization? Gave Gossip Girl nothing except to prove the writers and producers committed one too many sins against their fans, and now they don’t want to come back or to trust this show again. I’ve seen frustration with the writing, the characters, and the show runners themselves. 
 
Even the media seems to be getting into the hate frenzy against this show. Articles like the following seem to be what the ratings are reflecting as far as the dissatisfaction goes:
 
http://www.montrealgazette.com/entertainment/shows+that+have+overstayed+their+welcome/5790953/story.html#ixzz1fEgdR1bS
 
5. “Gossip Girl”

Doesn’t it feel like “Gossip Girl” has been on for longer than five seasons? Yeah, that’s not a good thing. Soapy dramas have to walk a fine line between too little action and piling on so much drama that the storylines and characters become tedious and unbelievable.

"GG" has hit the latter point.

Was it the Blair/Dan flirtation that sent the show hurling towards jump-the-shark status? Serena’s affairs with her teacher and Nate’s married cousin (and Nate himself)? The Blair and Chuck breakup and her eventual engagement to a prince? Jenny dealing drugs? Dan’s novel? Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes
 
Whether you agree with the following or not it, I’m just not sure how the show runners can blame fans who have simply decided Gossip Girl isn’t worth the time and effort anymore. Isn’t it up to the show and its writing to keep the audience tuned in? You have upset fans posting things like this on Facebook as the 100th episode came to its “rewarding” conclusion: 
 
Marisa Negri Nothing good happens on GG anymore. Everything is just more and more negative. Chuck & Blair need to end up together. Serena is a dumb bitch - I bet she sent the text to GG. I really doubt Georgina is actually Gossip Girl - she probably got access to her email account somehow with her con ways. I cannot believe Louie! He used to be such a nice guy. Is he really going to follow through with this? Maybe he’s overreacting because of the betrayal. Either way, I’m sure B will overcome.

 
Ana Idriceanu well the episode was a total failure and disappointment and it just looks like they’ll pretty much do anything to keep the show going. I’m so tired of this Chuck and Blair and their tragic fate circus.. I mean seriously.. she made a pact with GOD?!?!??! Blair Waldorf made a pact with God!??!?

Tabitha Dupree Not watching anymore. Dan and Blair is the worst story line ever.

Mahin Rahaman I hate seeing Chuck Bass be miserable after every single episode so far. Enough with Dair :(((

Patrick Mannsberger WOW this episode was SOOOO BAD, i cant belive it!

Plami Dimova a shocking episode…you got that right!I lost any kind of hope for chuck and blair when she and louie married…but that dickhead louie ..wtf?

Margo Clark Massey I do not know how much longer GG will not let THE couple be together. Come on, we have been waiting for several seasons now for B and Chuck Bass to be together. I was so disappointed when Dan drove up….come on come on come on!!! We are done GG, give us our couple!!!

 
吳敬云 Just let Chuck and Blair have their happy ending for crying out loud! They are meant to be!!!!!!!!!! and the whole Dan-loving-Blair is a total joke!

Eleonore Valleron no way georgina is gossip girl, I don’t believe in it at all. 
Didn’t like the episode much. Everything was just too annoying. For instance, we saw the priest like 2 minutes and then he just disappeared. Also, Dan just gets on my nerves, not only with the whole story with blair (who should be with chuck!) but also, who the hell runs away with her ex’s best friend when she just made her declaration, like 10 minutes before. And the whole Louis being an asshole was a little too easy for me.

Jumanah Alasadi chuck and blair, please? Wtf

Sadie Sininger Horrible, you guys are seriously ruining the show. You need a new plot line because there is no plot anymore. This show will get canceled if it keeps going at this rate.

Marina Petrovski My heart hurts for Chuck and Blair… Seriously writers WTF???

And over on Twitter:
@superjellybean
If Blair & Dan get together I’m going to shoot somebody. I’m so pissed off. Bloody crap. Save Chuck and Blair.
 
@sarrrahb
okay i thought that was going to be a great episode of gossip girl and all i am now is thoroughly disappointed. blair and chuck are lobsters
 
 
@tinat89
Not watching @gossipgirl anymore!!! WTF????? Will Blair and Chuck ever be together??? And what’s this bs with Blair and Dan??? Utter nonsense
 
lorra @alorrable 
@GGWriters FUCK YOU SO HARD UP THE ASS WITH A SHOVEL
 
 
While I’m not too keen on having anything shoved up anyone’s ass or people shooting anyone, these are only a few reactions flying around after the 100th episode that promised “reward” and “revitalization” of the show. Now, why am I bringing tweets and facebook comments in? I like to know what the general audience reacts to and try to understand why they are upset. Obviously the 100th episode wasn’t to everyone’s liking if they didn’t stick around for the next episode. The bigger problem here is not the audience, but the writers. They aren’t taking into account their audience, therefore said audience will not stick around for a show that doesn’t care about its opinions or find it important. While shows don’t always give the audience what it wants all the time, the problem with Gossip Girl and its producers is they go to the point of chastising and making fun of their audience. Take Chuck and Blair fans trending “Save Chuck and Blair” for an hour and a half World Wide during the 100th episode, and then later in other countries like the UK, Italy, Argentina, Phillipines, etc for up to 3-12 hours afterwards. You have fans begging the writers to listen and hear them, but what type of responses do they get from the writers? 
 
http://eonline.mobi/article?id=290195&last_page=7&paginate=0
 
To that, Josh Schwartz lovingly teases: “Plus, we really just wanted to piss off those ‘Chair’ fans so they don’t destroy my Twitter feeds on a weekly basis.”
 
 
Like Dorian Gray, the writers take shots at those who care – the fans. In fact, they take it at their largest fan base, and for what purpose? Are they upset fans like a pairings they set up, or did they over estimate their own writing skills thinking fans would take anything that was offered to them? Fans don’t work that way. One cannot make the audience accept anything or expect them to watch just because you continue call your product Gossip Girl and pretend it’s still the same show it once was. Fans stay around for the present and the future, not the past you represent or the promises you give out. 
 
Right now fans are just looking for a reason to continue to watch, and that can’t be better displayed than the conversation that happened on the writers’ twitter itself:
 
@SunnyEmm
            What’s the point in Chuck and Blair fans watching if all you guys do is throw them under a bus and make fun of their fans? @GGWriters
 
 
@GGWriters
@SunnyEmm We don’t make fun of the fans, and you have to have faith that with all great loves, they might find each other again.
 
I think fans are genuinely attempting to find something to cling to but, as we’ve already shown, the writers are just throwing their loyalty in their faces. If I were one of these fans I wouldn’t burn down your twitter, I wouldn’t even watch because it’s obvious the writers would rather write what pleases them and not what their fans actually want to see. I understand writers have a vision, but at what point do you stop and say, “Maybe I was wrong?”  Is it after you’ve lost one million viewers since last season? Or are you like Dorian, stabbing your painting because you’ve finally realized you committed one too many sins and there is just no hope anymore?
 
@lexieflavor
@GGWriters We’re all having hard time getting Blair this season. At times it doesn’t even feel like Blair. Are we supposed to feel this?
 
@GGWriters 
@lexieflavor Yes. Absolutely.
 
I put this last one up because it illustrates the fundamental reason the writers are having difficulty with their audience. Blair Waldorf is the centerpiece of the show. In fact, Josh Schwartz himself once described her as the character that set the show’s tone. Unfortunately, the writers have decided to throw this character into a tailspin that the audience isn’t relating to which, in turn, throws the whole show off. Gossip Girl doesn’t feel like Gossip Girl because its heart is not beating, its emotions are not ones the audience understands or are even privy to. Forget any other problems this show has at the moment, this point alone can send the show into cardiac arrest – and it has. As the March Hare pointed out, in losing Blair Waldorf, you lose what many thought was the most important relationship in Blair and Serena. Without Blair being a multi-faceted character, a piece of the show dies and the rest of the relationships you held dear die with it.
 
Mix all these different problems, the ratings and responsibility for them does not come down to “disloyal” fans, it comes down to who is running the show and the “sins” it committed against its own original work and its audience. The sad part of this whole situation is what the fans have gone through.  If the show ends in an unsatisfactory way, then it hurts the fans. If this show does get canceled, don’t let these producers think it’s your fault. You don’t write the show, you don’t promote the show, and you did not create the ugly picture this show has become. They are the Dorian here. They created the picture. They may have tried to blame you for their wrongs, but when you go look at Gossip Girl, who transformed it into what it was? It wasn’t you or me; it was the arrogance, pride and conceit shown by show runners who didn’t care to listen to what was being screamed at them. I think the only solace we can take in all this is that Fake Empire will have had two, maybe three shows (if Hart of Dixie dies because it was paired with GG) that have been canceled this year – and we as an audience can move on from grieving a show we once loved once and for all.
 
As I was finishing this particular article, Gossip Girl’s ratings reached all-time lowest in their five year run with 1 million viewers and a demographic low of .5
 
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/22/monday-final-ratings-the-voice-house-two-and-a-half-men-hawaii-five-0-adjusted-up/121204/
 
But the real anomaly is that, halfway through the episode, fans didn’t seem to enjoy what they were seeing because 400,000 viewers switched the channel to watch something else. 
 
http://www.hitfix.com/articles/tv-ratings-smash-drop-continues-but-the-voice-keeps-nbc-in-monday-lead 
 
It’s a staggering drop for a show that’s barely keeping a million viewers, and it’s reflective of an audience that gave the writers a whole season to clean up their mess before something finally made them snap. What makes this worse is that it’s considered “Sweeps” for all networks. It’s a time “when networks rely on shameless stunts to get viewers to tune in. Couch potatoes know that broadcasters use the viewership numbers collected during sweeps to set advertising rates for the rest of the year.” 
 
(http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2004/02/how_does_sweeps_week_work.html) 
 
Networks pull out all the big storylines that usually have viewers chomping at the bit, but Gossip Girl has managed the opposite effect in the past few weeks. Since that “revitalizing” 100th episode aired, Gossip Girl has managed to produce series low ratings twice. The last episode managed to get the same ratings as another show canceled on the CW last year, Hellcats. 
 
Here are the 18-34 women’s demo ratings for Gossip Girl’s 2012 episodes:
 
GG: 1.2—1.3—1.3—1.2—0.9—0.8
 
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/21/bubble-watch-cw-its-hard-to-imagine-gossip-girl-being-renewed-with-its-ratings-but/120724/comment-page-21/#comments
 
I will repeat this again:  this is not the fans’ fault. Others can get angry and upset that fans are not tuning in and the show is collapsing, but in the end it is up to those writing the show to keep an audience. It’s their duty to care about their audience and listen to them every now and then. I’ll take the writers own words and use them again:
 
GGWriters
@amands87 Thank YOU. Without you, there’d be no us!
 
They are correct. And yet, now that fans are leaving, they are not listening to you. Never forget, you have the power and are standing up for yourselves when you choose to watch or not. Now, I’m going to do something a little different and ask fans out there: why have you left? Why is the show making you leave by the hundreds of thousands? Do you feel like the writers are “rewarding” you right now?Email me at Aliceinggland@gmail.com or the March Hare at Marchhareinggland@gmail.com

Ratings: How Gossip Girl Writers Are Gashing Their Own Show 

 

Reading about the ratings for Gossip Girl and the way the writers are talking about them, the situation instantly reminded me of a book: The Picture of Dorian Gray. If you haven’t read it, please do yourself a favor and walk away from the time you spend trashing each other in order to check out this book. It’s about a man, Dorian, who comes to the conclusion that youth and beauty is everything, so he sells his soul. Rather than aging himself, his portrait does the aging for him. Throughout the book, he commits sins (even going to the point of murdering a dear friend) that disfigure and age the painting. In the end, Dorian attempts to transform himself only to find he’s done it solely on a superficial level, therefore the painting remains disfigured. Finally, shamed and disgusted, he plunges a knife into the painting and, in turn, he dies disfigured and old while the painting is turned back into the beautiful figure of Dorian at a young age.

 

Now, you ask, what does this have to do with Gossip Girl and why do I think it relates? It’s simple. The Gossip Girl writers have created their own Dorian Gray tragedy, and it can be shown through the ratings and the words the producers themselves use to create a smoke screen, much like Dorian Gray did to the world as he lied and tainted it along the way. Let’s first take a look at the ratings themselves, using this article by an unbiased site that is purely dictating numbers to us every week:

 

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/07/cw-ratings-collapse-could-cause-more-than-expected-number-of-show-cancellations/118878/

 

“The ratings decline is so steep that I fear the methods of the Renew / Cancel Index are not entirely reliable against such a situation, and that more shows than the ~2 cancellations predicted by the four shows in the normally 50/50 “toss up” range may occur at the end of the season. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if some combination of four shows (the most likely being Nikita, Hart Of Dixie, Ringer & Gossip Girl) were canceled in a desperate bid to get as many new shows on the air as possible next Fall to try and find something that works.”

 

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/26/mailbag-why-didnt-you-take-gossip-girl-off-the-bubble-yet/117704/?utm_campaign=WP%3ETwitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

 

“So basically if Warner Bros wants another season of Gossip Girl, it will almost certainly get it. We can’t discern if that’s really the case based on comments from the producers and sadly, they won’t, you know, just tell us.”

 

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/24/monday-final-ratings-gossip-girl-hart-of-dixie-adjusted-down/117518/

 

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/17/tv-ratings-monday-alcatraz-premiere-tops-terra-nova/116692/comment-page-16/#comments

 

 

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/27/most-and-least-watched-shows-of-fall-updated/

 

 

 

 

Now let us take a look at what our Dorian (the producers and show runners) are trying to sell to the audience:

 

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/20/gossip-girl-scoop-100th-episode/

 

“We’ve had no one saying to us, ‘Wrap it up. This is the last season.’ So we’re not [treating the season finale] as such,” said EP Joshua Safran, hoping to quell some fans’ fears that their favorite teen drama would soon fall victim to dwindling ratings.”

 

 

http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/whenmdashand_howmdashwill_gossip_girl/288542#ixzz1ktuy0yOvhttp://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/whenmdashand_howmdashwill_gossip_girl/288542

 

While the writers couldn’t include all of the nods to previous episodes that they wanted to, Safran says “they’ll be on the DVD.” Still, if you are one of those viewers who tuned out in the last season or two (Tsk-tsk!), Safran says, “I think that you can actually jump back in.” While he wouldn’t say much about the plot of the milestone hour, Safran teases, “I think it’s a really great episode and every one of our leads has a full story.”

 

 

Which is it Mr. Safran? Is it the last season or is it not? You know you’ve lost a lot of the fanbase if you’re saying "Still, if you are one of those viewers who tuned out in the last season or two.”  Are you fearful that you’ve lost too many viewers? And if you are, then why not rectify that in your show? Why not give fans something to look forward to instead of the ambiguous answers you give to the media? I understand there were a ton of leaks last year, but being ambiguous with your audience has actually made the audience distrust the writers more – and who could blame them when the stories are in the state they are? I have suffered through clips on you tube just so I could write this Tumblr comprehensively, and I found it just sad what the remaining fans are being put through. If you have been a fan of this show since the beginning, then you know what I’m talking about. Like New York Magazine, who no longer calls it the “ Greatest Shows of Our Time” but just a “show of our time.”  I can’t say this is a show worthy of staying on the air anymore, and the best reflection is the ratings. The question is, are the producers feeling the pressure yet? I would assume they are if they keep saying thing such as this:

 

http://www.vulture.com/2012/01/mayor-bloomberg-proclaims-today-gossip-girl-day.html

 

“Next week’s episode will revitalize you,” Safran promised, indicating that the show will contain a Big Twist—and possibly reveal the identity of Gossip Girl herself. And after that, Savage assured us, there will be many, many more episodes to come. “We don’t plan on ending the show this season,” she said. Yay?

 

 

If this episode was meant to “revitalize” the show and bring viewers back, then you are facing one big dilemma because while the ratings went up to a 1.39 / 0.7 demo (it’s the second highest rated episode of the year, dismal in itself) – it shrunk back to a 1.28/0.6 demo the following episode. As I write this, the show just hit a series low in allthe demographics. It achieved a measly 0.5 in the 18-49 demo, a 0.8 in the all-important women’s demo and total viewers were 1.13. Revitalize means to “ give new life or vigor.” This revitalization? Gave Gossip Girl nothing except to prove the writers and producers committed one too many sins against their fans, and now they don’t want to come back or to trust this show again. I’ve seen frustration with the writing, the characters, and the show runners themselves.

 

Even the media seems to be getting into the hate frenzy against this show. Articles like the following seem to be what the ratings are reflecting as far as the dissatisfaction goes:

 

http://www.montrealgazette.com/entertainment/shows+that+have+overstayed+their+welcome/5790953/story.html#ixzz1fEgdR1bS

 

5. “Gossip Girl”

Doesn’t it feel like “Gossip Girl” has been on for longer than five seasons? Yeah, that’s not a good thing. Soapy dramas have to walk a fine line between too little action and piling on so much drama that the storylines and characters become tedious and unbelievable.

"GG" has hit the latter point.

Was it the Blair/Dan flirtation that sent the show hurling towards jump-the-shark status? Serena’s affairs with her teacher and Nate’s married cousin (and Nate himself)? The Blair and Chuck breakup and her eventual engagement to a prince? Jenny dealing drugs? Dan’s novel? Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes

 

Whether you agree with the following or not it, I’m just not sure how the show runners can blame fans who have simply decided Gossip Girl isn’t worth the time and effort anymore. Isn’t it up to the show and its writing to keep the audience tuned in? You have upset fans posting things like this on Facebook as the 100th episode came to its “rewarding” conclusion:

 

Marisa Negri Nothing good happens on GG anymore. Everything is just more and more negative. Chuck & Blair need to end up together. Serena is a dumb bitch - I bet she sent the text to GG. I really doubt Georgina is actually Gossip Girl - she probably got access to her email account somehow with her con ways. I cannot believe Louie! He used to be such a nice guy. Is he really going to follow through with this? Maybe he’s overreacting because of the betrayal. Either way, I’m sure B will overcome.

 

Ana Idriceanu well the episode was a total failure and disappointment and it just looks like they’ll pretty much do anything to keep the show going. I’m so tired of this Chuck and Blair and their tragic fate circus.. I mean seriously.. she made a pact with GOD?!?!??! Blair Waldorf made a pact with God!??!?

Tabitha Dupree Not watching anymore. Dan and Blair is the worst story line ever.

Mahin Rahaman I hate seeing Chuck Bass be miserable after every single episode so far. Enough with Dair :(((

Patrick Mannsberger WOW this episode was SOOOO BAD, i cant belive it!

Plami Dimova a shocking episode…you got that right!I lost any kind of hope for chuck and blair when she and louie married…but that dickhead louie ..wtf?

Margo Clark Massey I do not know how much longer GG will not let THE couple be together. Come on, we have been waiting for several seasons now for B and Chuck Bass to be together. I was so disappointed when Dan drove up….come on come on come on!!! We are done GG, give us our couple!!!

 

吳敬云 Just let Chuck and Blair have their happy ending for crying out loud! They are meant to be!!!!!!!!!! and the whole Dan-loving-Blair is a total joke!

Eleonore Valleron no way georgina is gossip girl, I don’t believe in it at all.

Didn’t like the episode much. Everything was just too annoying. For instance, we saw the priest like 2 minutes and then he just disappeared. Also, Dan just gets on my nerves, not only with the whole story with blair (who should be with chuck!) but also, who the hell runs away with her ex’s best friend when she just made her declaration, like 10 minutes before. And the whole Louis being an asshole was a little too easy for me.

Jumanah Alasadi chuck and blair, please? Wtf

Sadie Sininger Horrible, you guys are seriously ruining the show. You need a new plot line because there is no plot anymore. This show will get canceled if it keeps going at this rate.

Marina Petrovski My heart hurts for Chuck and Blair… Seriously writers WTF???

And over on Twitter:

@superjellybean

If Blair & Dan get together I’m going to shoot somebody. I’m so pissed off. Bloody crap. Save Chuck and Blair.

 

@sarrrahb

okay i thought that was going to be a great episode of gossip girl and all i am now is thoroughly disappointed. blair and chuck are lobsters

 

 

@tinat89

Not watching @gossipgirl anymore!!! WTF????? Will Blair and Chuck ever be together??? And what’s this bs with Blair and Dan??? Utter nonsense

 

lorra @alorrable

@GGWriters FUCK YOU SO HARD UP THE ASS WITH A SHOVEL

 

 

While I’m not too keen on having anything shoved up anyone’s ass or people shooting anyone, these are only a few reactions flying around after the 100th episode that promised “reward” and “revitalization” of the show. Now, why am I bringing tweets and facebook comments in? I like to know what the general audience reacts to and try to understand why they are upset. Obviously the 100th episode wasn’t to everyone’s liking if they didn’t stick around for the next episode. The bigger problem here is not the audience, but the writers. They aren’t taking into account their audience, therefore said audience will not stick around for a show that doesn’t care about its opinions or find it important. While shows don’t always give the audience what it wants all the time, the problem with Gossip Girl and its producers is they go to the point of chastising and making fun of their audience. Take Chuck and Blair fans trending “Save Chuck and Blair” for an hour and a half World Wide during the 100th episode, and then later in other countries like the UK, Italy, Argentina, Phillipines, etc for up to 3-12 hours afterwards. You have fans begging the writers to listen and hear them, but what type of responses do they get from the writers?

 

http://eonline.mobi/article?id=290195&last_page=7&paginate=0

 

To that, Josh Schwartz lovingly teases: “Plus, we really just wanted to piss off those ‘Chair’ fans so they don’t destroy my Twitter feeds on a weekly basis.”

 

 

Like Dorian Gray, the writers take shots at those who care – the fans. In fact, they take it at their largest fan base, and for what purpose? Are they upset fans like a pairings they set up, or did they over estimate their own writing skills thinking fans would take anything that was offered to them? Fans don’t work that way. One cannot make the audience accept anything or expect them to watch just because you continue call your product Gossip Girl and pretend it’s still the same show it once was. Fans stay around for the present and the future, not the past you represent or the promises you give out.

 

Right now fans are just looking for a reason to continue to watch, and that can’t be better displayed than the conversation that happened on the writers’ twitter itself:

 

@SunnyEmm

            What’s the point in Chuck and Blair fans watching if all you guys do is throw them under a bus and make fun of their fans? @GGWriters

 

 

@GGWriters

@SunnyEmm We don’t make fun of the fans, and you have to have faith that with all great loves, they might find each other again.

 

I think fans are genuinely attempting to find something to cling to but, as we’ve already shown, the writers are just throwing their loyalty in their faces. If I were one of these fans I wouldn’t burn down your twitter, I wouldn’t even watch because it’s obvious the writers would rather write what pleases them and not what their fans actually want to see. I understand writers have a vision, but at what point do you stop and say, “Maybe I was wrong?”  Is it after you’ve lost one million viewers since last season? Or are you like Dorian, stabbing your painting because you’ve finally realized you committed one too many sins and there is just no hope anymore?

 

@lexieflavor

@GGWriters We’re all having hard time getting Blair this season. At times it doesn’t even feel like Blair. Are we supposed to feel this?

 

@GGWriters

@lexieflavor Yes. Absolutely.

 

I put this last one up because it illustrates the fundamental reason the writers are having difficulty with their audience. Blair Waldorf is the centerpiece of the show. In fact, Josh Schwartz himself once described her as the character that set the show’s tone. Unfortunately, the writers have decided to throw this character into a tailspin that the audience isn’t relating to which, in turn, throws the whole show off. Gossip Girl doesn’t feel like Gossip Girl because its heart is not beating, its emotions are not ones the audience understands or are even privy to. Forget any other problems this show has at the moment, this point alone can send the show into cardiac arrest – and it has. As the March Hare pointed out, in losing Blair Waldorf, you lose what many thought was the most important relationship in Blair and Serena. Without Blair being a multi-faceted character, a piece of the show dies and the rest of the relationships you held dear die with it.

 

Mix all these different problems, the ratings and responsibility for them does not come down to “disloyal” fans, it comes down to who is running the show and the “sins” it committed against its own original work and its audience. The sad part of this whole situation is what the fans have gone through.  If the show ends in an unsatisfactory way, then it hurts the fans. If this show does get canceled, don’t let these producers think it’s your fault. You don’t write the show, you don’t promote the show, and you did not create the ugly picture this show has become. They are the Dorian here. They created the picture. They may have tried to blame you for their wrongs, but when you go look at Gossip Girl, who transformed it into what it was? It wasn’t you or me; it was the arrogance, pride and conceit shown by show runners who didn’t care to listen to what was being screamed at them. I think the only solace we can take in all this is that Fake Empire will have had two, maybe three shows (if Hart of Dixie dies because it was paired with GG) that have been canceled this year – and we as an audience can move on from grieving a show we once loved once and for all.

 

As I was finishing this particular article, Gossip Girl’s ratings reached all-time lowest in their five year run with 1 million viewers and a demographic low of .5

 

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/22/monday-final-ratings-the-voice-house-two-and-a-half-men-hawaii-five-0-adjusted-up/121204/

 

But the real anomaly is that, halfway through the episode, fans didn’t seem to enjoy what they were seeing because 400,000 viewers switched the channel to watch something else.

 

http://www.hitfix.com/articles/tv-ratings-smash-drop-continues-but-the-voice-keeps-nbc-in-monday-lead

 

It’s a staggering drop for a show that’s barely keeping a million viewers, and it’s reflective of an audience that gave the writers a whole season to clean up their mess before something finally made them snap. What makes this worse is that it’s considered “Sweeps” for all networks. It’s a time “when networks rely on shameless stunts to get viewers to tune in. Couch potatoes know that broadcasters use the viewership numbers collected during sweeps to set advertising rates for the rest of the year.”

 

(http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2004/02/how_does_sweeps_week_work.html)

 

Networks pull out all the big storylines that usually have viewers chomping at the bit, but Gossip Girl has managed the opposite effect in the past few weeks. Since that “revitalizing” 100th episode aired, Gossip Girl has managed to produce series low ratings twice. The last episode managed to get the same ratings as another show canceled on the CW last year, Hellcats.

 

Here are the 18-34 women’s demo ratings for Gossip Girl’s 2012 episodes:

 

GG: 1.2—1.3—1.3—1.2—0.9—0.8

 

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/21/bubble-watch-cw-its-hard-to-imagine-gossip-girl-being-renewed-with-its-ratings-but/120724/comment-page-21/#comments

 

I will repeat this again:  this is not the fans’ fault. Others can get angry and upset that fans are not tuning in and the show is collapsing, but in the end it is up to those writing the show to keep an audience. It’s their duty to care about their audience and listen to them every now and then. I’ll take the writers own words and use them again:

 

GGWriters

@amands87 Thank YOU. Without you, there’d be no us!

 

They are correct. And yet, now that fans are leaving, they are not listening to you. Never forget, you have the power and are standing up for yourselves when you choose to watch or not. Now, I’m going to do something a little different and ask fans out there: why have you left? Why is the show making you leave by the hundreds of thousands? Do you feel like the writers are “rewarding” you right now?Email me at Aliceinggland@gmail.com or the March Hare at Marchhareinggland@gmail.com

From time to time I like having guest writers for this little blog about the fandom and  my good friend, the March Hare, came up with their own idea for this. Since the March Hare is much closer to the fandom and knows a little more of it’s inner workings, I was happy to oblige. Now that my introduction is complete, I give you the March Hare:

How One Man Destroyed Gossip Girl: The Josh Safran Story
 
What will be Josh Safran’s legacy when Gossip Girl ends?  One of the few writers leftthat have been there since the beginning, he took over in season 4 and changed the show forever.   What was once a special teenage soap where friendships trumped all suddenly became a frightening string of OMG moments that never fully resulted in anyone saying OMG.  Spoilers became an issue, writers teamed up with fans to attack other fans, producers started calling people names online; and, most importantly, over 50% of viewers moved on.
 
Who is to blame and what went wrong?   After the debacle that has been the last 3 episodes, I decided to look back on the words of Safran and see where this tale of woe begins.   One of the first interviews that made meaware of Safran was a 3-part Examiner interview from September 5, 2009.  Having occurred just before the season 3 premiere and the NYU saga it brought us, this interview was perhaps as a sign of things to come.   I will take two segments from each part to illustrate Josh Safran's thoughts circa 2009
 
 
 
AG: Any final thoughts on the show before Monday?
 
JS: It bothers me when people think of this show merely as a guilty pleasure because I think it’s more than that, and I hope it’ll stand the test of time. The show is smart, sharp. The writing staff is full of emotionally intuitive people who pull from their own personal histories as much as they do from headlines.  And, of course, we draw from classic works like “Les Liaisons Dangereuses” and “The Great Gatsby” as much as we do from pop culture. Blair can quote Chekhov and Britney in the same breath. I feel like it’s that strange mix that makes Gossip Girl special.
 
http://www.examiner.com/pop-media-in-los-angeles/interview-part-3-gossip-girl-co-exec-prod-josh-safran-on-funerals-a-love-child-henry-the-cat#ixzz1mNe8ewlQ
 
 
 
 
AG: Let’s talk about the female friendships and the relationships between mothers and daughters. The two episodes where I cried were “The Serena Also Rises” and “Valley Girls”.  Those episodes mined the mechanics of both those kinds of relationships. I think on Gossip Girl, like in real life, they can have some of the same intensity as romantic relationships.
 
JS: Serena and Blair are the central relationship of the show. They always have been, and always will be. Second to that are the friendships and family relationships across the board. We try to write from that theme, although it isn’t always recognizable on first glance. “Valley Girls,” for instance, was about mothers and daughters, female friendships, and how they grow and change and deepen through surprising circumstances. In “The Serena Always Rises” when Serena told Blair to step out of her light, leading into their catfight the next episode, a lot of the writing of that relationship and its issues came from a very personal place for the writers, myself included. It doesn’t matter that I’m not a teenage girl.  The guys on the staff get female relationships, and the girls get things like Nate and Dan’s bromance. We’re good in each other’s skins. This season, with Serena and Blair in different places, their friendship might be tested. But their bond is always so strong underneath. It’s funny, at the very beginning, people talked about how Blair was dark and Serena was light, but as we’ve shown, they each have both. Which is universal. And it’s some of this stuff that we’re talking about that makes me hope people will still be talking about these characters in ten years, like they do about Angela and Rayanne from My So-Called Life, or Rory and Lorelei from Gilmore Girls.
 
 
http://www.examiner.com/pop-media-in-los-angeles/interview-part-2-gossip-girl-co-executive-prod-josh-safran-on-characters-catfights-spacesuits#ixzz1mNdCn5p5
 
 
 
 
Now I admit I read this and smiled.   Well, no, I didn’t - but I did go back to Google to find more.  Let’s come back to present time.   This is a quote from January 13th, 2012, from an interview with Safran and Nicole Karlis: 
 
 
 
HL: And what about Blair’s friendship with Serena (Blake Lively)? Does Dan mess that up at all?
 
JS: What I will say is that Serena and Blair’s friendship is that I know some people feel like we didn’t service it fully in the first half of the season. But we believe they were very close — with the exception of episode five when they sort of had their arguments. But they live together, they share a bathroom, they’re really close friends, and that’s something we wanted to showcase even more coming up. People sort of felt like, ‘Wait, where have Serena and Blair gone?’ And in our mind, we were like, ‘It’s because they’re not having problems. They’re just happy friends. Hugging was sort of enough.’ In the wedding, Serena is very much by Blair’s side throughout that entire episode for instance. In our minds„ because because hey’re not having problems, we’re like, they’re friends. We haven’t necessarily showcased that as much as the fans would like. In our brains, we thought we had. We’re just making sure to hit that even harder.
 
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2012/01/13/gossip-girl-spoiler-blair-wedding-runaway-bride-chuck/
 
 
 
Are you laughing?  Are you crying?  Let’s compare 2009 and 2012 or, as I call it, Before Stephanie Savage and After.   We went from the central relationship in the show and that which drives everything to “We didn’t realize people would notice they were not sharing scenes”  Now I watched last episode, and I cried for SB.   SB was killed for DB.  They can not be saved.  Don’t bother trending or tweeting.  There was a decision to be made, and Josh Safran chose Dan over Serena.   Now, season 3 premiered to 2.52 million viewers while only 1.17 million viewers watched the end of the SB friendship.  So in 2 seasons, they lost the core pairing of the show and 50% of the audience.  I am sure that these facts are not related.  I could (and will) write a long post about how the destruction of SB killed Gossip Girl, but for now I will leave you with this:  imagine Gilmore Girlswithout Rory and Lorelei. Imagine The OC without Seth and Ryan. Can you see it? You can’t.  That is your new and improved Safran-led Gossip Girl.  Now with 100% more Dan.
 
Seasons 1 and 2 will stand the test of time.  Season 3 is a huge WTF, and season 4 is a completely different show.  Which leads me to my next segment. 
 
 
 
Josh Safran vs.  Chuck Bass/Nate Archibald  
 
I am sure you are wondering why these are together, and I ask you all stay with me as I tie Josh’s hatred for Chuck Bass to his hatred for the fans.   I hope that you all read the three part interview at the beginning of this post.  Just to set the scene, remember this was conducted right before season 3.   The season where the characters firstgo to college, and the only season in which Chuck and Blair are a couple.   You will notice the big focus on NYU, Hilary Duff and Scott.   Or, as I call them, The Trifecta of Fail.  Now, I don’t want to speak for everyone, but who here was excited for NYU, Scott or Hilary Duff?  No one?  Really?  Shocking.  
 
There was also another subtle change that occurred, one which does not get a lot of notice, and that is the end of screen time for Chuck Bass.  I join in with fans mocking Josh for refusing to discuss Chuck in the producer previews, and for often having to be reminded by his partner that Chuck exists, but there is actual proof to show that Chuck - and to a lesser extent Nate - is not a Josh Safran favorite.   In seasons 1 - 3, we saw all main characters get screen time.  Blair and Serena dominated, but in general all the boys also got their fair share.   In season 4, we saw Chuck and Nate get a very reduced load.   Chuck still was a plot vocal point, but he actually was able to do so without actually appearing.   4.20 was perhaps one of the most discussed episodes of season 4, all because of Chuck’s behavior, but he actually was not in that many scenes and barely appeared in the beginning of the episode.   Nate has become a joke.  Once he apologized to Dan for being mad about Dan kissing his girlfriend in the season 3 finale, he never recovered.   He dates whatever guest star the writers are obsessed with, and he hangs out at his apt with Chuck.  That is Nate.   After fan outcry, he got more of a significant story in season 5, but he is still the go-to guy for all female guest stars.  He did not even warrant sharing a scene with Blair after his cousin killed her baby.  
 
So why the hate for Nate and Chuck?  Lets roll back to season 3.   The second part of season 3, saw three couple emerge on Gossip Girl: Chuck/Blair, Nate/Serena and Dan/Vanessa.   Fans were thrilled and excited to have the NJBC together and in a couple.   They were thrilled to see Dan and Vanessa condensed in one storyline for ease of ignoring.  This replaced the NYU Dan/Vanessa focused storyline and, in myopinion, Josh never forgave.  Both NJBC couples were deconstructed to plan for a Dan-centered arc.   Why?  Was Dan a fan favorite?  Were viewers asking for this?  Nope, but the very popular Nate and Chuck were put on the back burner or, in Chuck’s case, thrown under a very big bus to facilitate making both girls all about Dan. 
 
 
 
Josh Safran vs. The Fan
 
I am not going to discuss Spoilergate.   It has been discussed before and in-depth.  I have a very close friend who constantly says that there was never a leak.   It was discussed before on this blog, so I won’t go into detail because most of you know what happened.   What I will say is this: Josh Safran contacted fans and asked them to spy on other fans who shipped different things.   He traded spoilers and information, and even named a character after someone who helped.   This witch hunt was led by Josh with his approval.   The buck stops there. I know it generated buzz and it took the focus away from a weak season 4 finale, but can you think of one other showrunner that would do this?  I can’t.   That is not even the worst of it.   There has also been complaint tweets from the @ggwriters about fans complaining,  a production assistant that RTs negative tweets about CB fans, and a multitude of interviews where he has pointed out how awful the fans are.   I am not asking for him to kiss anyone’s ass, but showing some respect for the people who care about and watch your program would be a start.   His distast for and hatred of all the fans is in sharp contrast to Josh Schwartz, who tries to make everything light and fun, and Stephanie Savage who - despite not loving the spotlight - always took the time to thank the viewers.   Josh Safran, with his protected twitter and his team of writers, seems to despise anyone who does not respond to his genius in a way he likes.   I fear that he has lost sight of the fact that he is basically feeding himself off the goodwill that Schwartz and Savage earned.   Under his reign of terror, the ratings have plummeted and NYMag hasdowngraded The Greatest Show Of Our Time to just a show.  No one thinks a show run by fans is a great idea.  I can’t think of anything worse.  That being said, before you destroy Blair/Serena and dismiss the two male leads, you might want to do a temperature check because that is a big move that is not fan-friendly at all.
 
 
 
Final Thoughts
 
I can’t imagine jumping into the next Josh Safran show once this show is put out of its misery. Can you?
 
Lastly, Josh Safran is a writer who clearly spent some part of his youth/young adult life living in Brooklyn.  Perhaps, instead of using therapy, he is working out issues through his self insert?
~The March Hare

From time to time I like having guest writers for this little blog about the fandom and  my good friend, the March Hare, came up with their own idea for this. Since the March Hare is much closer to the fandom and knows a little more of it’s inner workings, I was happy to oblige. Now that my introduction is complete, I give you the March Hare:

How One Man Destroyed Gossip Girl: The Josh Safran Story

 

What will be Josh Safran’s legacy when Gossip Girl ends?  One of the few writers leftthat have been there since the beginning, he took over in season 4 and changed the show forever.   What was once a special teenage soap where friendships trumped all suddenly became a frightening string of OMG moments that never fully resulted in anyone saying OMG.  Spoilers became an issue, writers teamed up with fans to attack other fansproducers started calling people names online; and, most importantly, over 50% of viewers moved on.

 

Who is to blame and what went wrong?   After the debacle that has been the last 3 episodes, I decided to look back on the words of Safran and see where this tale of woe begins.   One of the first interviews that made meaware of Safran was a 3-part Examiner interview from September 5, 2009.  Having occurred just before the season 3 premiere and the NYU saga it brought us, this interview was perhaps as a sign of things to come.   I will take two segments from each part to illustrate Josh Safran's thoughts circa 2009

 

 

 

AG: Any final thoughts on the show before Monday?

 

JS: It bothers me when people think of this show merely as a guilty pleasure because I think it’s more than that, and I hope it’ll stand the test of time. The show is smart, sharp. The writing staff is full of emotionally intuitive people who pull from their own personal histories as much as they do from headlines.  And, of course, we draw from classic works like “Les Liaisons Dangereuses” and “The Great Gatsby” as much as we do from pop culture. Blair can quote Chekhov and Britney in the same breath. I feel like it’s that strange mix that makes Gossip Girl special.

 

http://www.examiner.com/pop-media-in-los-angeles/interview-part-3-gossip-girl-co-exec-prod-josh-safran-on-funerals-a-love-child-henry-the-cat#ixzz1mNe8ewlQ

 

 

 

 

AG: Let’s talk about the female friendships and the relationships between mothers and daughters. The two episodes where I cried were “The Serena Also Rises” and “Valley Girls”.  Those episodes mined the mechanics of both those kinds of relationships. I think on Gossip Girl, like in real life, they can have some of the same intensity as romantic relationships.

 

JS: Serena and Blair are the central relationship of the show. They always have been, and always will be. Second to that are the friendships and family relationships across the board. We try to write from that theme, although it isn’t always recognizable on first glance. “Valley Girls,” for instance, was about mothers and daughters, female friendships, and how they grow and change and deepen through surprising circumstances. In “The Serena Always Rises” when Serena told Blair to step out of her light, leading into their catfight the next episode, a lot of the writing of that relationship and its issues came from a very personal place for the writers, myself included. It doesn’t matter that I’m not a teenage girl.  The guys on the staff get female relationships, and the girls get things like Nate and Dan’s bromance. We’re good in each other’s skins. This season, with Serena and Blair in different places, their friendship might be tested. But their bond is always so strong underneath. It’s funny, at the very beginning, people talked about how Blair was dark and Serena was light, but as we’ve shown, they each have both. Which is universal. And it’s some of this stuff that we’re talking about that makes me hope people will still be talking about these characters in ten years, like they do about Angela and Rayanne from My So-Called Life, or Rory and Lorelei from Gilmore Girls.

 

 

http://www.examiner.com/pop-media-in-los-angeles/interview-part-2-gossip-girl-co-executive-prod-josh-safran-on-characters-catfights-spacesuits#ixzz1mNdCn5p5

 

 

 

 

Now I admit I read this and smiled.   Well, no, I didn’t - but I did go back to Google to find more.  Let’s come back to present time.   This is a quote from January 13th, 2012, from an interview with Safran and Nicole Karlis: 

 

 

 

HL: And what about Blair’s friendship with Serena (Blake Lively)? Does Dan mess that up at all?

 

JS: What I will say is that Serena and Blair’s friendship is that I know some people feel like we didn’t service it fully in the first half of the season. But we believe they were very close — with the exception of episode five when they sort of had their arguments. But they live together, they share a bathroom, they’re really close friends, and that’s something we wanted to showcase even more coming up. People sort of felt like, ‘Wait, where have Serena and Blair gone?’ And in our mind, we were like, ‘It’s because they’re not having problems. They’re just happy friends. Hugging was sort of enough.’ In the wedding, Serena is very much by Blair’s side throughout that entire episode for instance. In our minds„ because because hey’re not having problems, we’re like, they’re friends. We haven’t necessarily showcased that as much as the fans would like. In our brains, we thought we had. We’re just making sure to hit that even harder.

 

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2012/01/13/gossip-girl-spoiler-blair-wedding-runaway-bride-chuck/

 

 

 

Are you laughing?  Are you crying?  Let’s compare 2009 and 2012 or, as I call it, Before Stephanie Savage and After.   We went from the central relationship in the show and that which drives everything to “We didn’t realize people would notice they were not sharing scenes”  Now I watched last episode, and I cried for SB.   SB was killed for DB.  They can not be saved.  Don’t bother trending or tweeting.  There was a decision to be made, and Josh Safran chose Dan over Serena.   Now, season 3 premiered to 2.52 million viewers while only 1.17 million viewers watched the end of the SB friendship.  So in 2 seasons, they lost the core pairing of the show and 50% of the audience.  I am sure that these facts are not related.  I could (and will) write a long post about how the destruction of SB killed Gossip Girl, but for now I will leave you with this:  imagine Gilmore Girlswithout Rory and Lorelei. Imagine The OC without Seth and Ryan. Can you see it? You can’t.  That is your new and improved Safran-led Gossip Girl.  Now with 100% more Dan.

 

Seasons 1 and 2 will stand the test of time.  Season 3 is a huge WTF, and season 4 is a completely different show.  Which leads me to my next segment. 

 

 

 

Josh Safran vs.  Chuck Bass/Nate Archibald  

 

I am sure you are wondering why these are together, and I ask you all stay with me as I tie Josh’s hatred for Chuck Bass to his hatred for the fans.   I hope that you all read the three part interview at the beginning of this post.  Just to set the scene, remember this was conducted right before season 3.   The season where the characters firstgo to college, and the only season in which Chuck and Blair are a couple.   You will notice the big focus on NYU, Hilary Duff and Scott.   Or, as I call them, The Trifecta of Fail.  Now, I don’t want to speak for everyone, but who here was excited for NYU, Scott or Hilary Duff?  No one?  Really?  Shocking.  

 

There was also another subtle change that occurred, one which does not get a lot of notice, and that is the end of screen time for Chuck Bass.  I join in with fans mocking Josh for refusing to discuss Chuck in the producer previews, and for often having to be reminded by his partner that Chuck exists, but there is actual proof to show that Chuck and to a lesser extent Nate - is not a Josh Safran favorite.   In seasons 1 - 3, we saw all main characters get screen time.  Blair and Serena dominated, but in general all the boys also got their fair share.   In season 4, we saw Chuck and Nate get a very reduced load.   Chuck still was a plot vocal point, but he actually was able to do so without actually appearing.   4.20 was perhaps one of the most discussed episodes of season 4, all because of Chuck’s behavior, but he actually was not in that many scenes and barely appeared in the beginning of the episode.   Nate has become a joke.  Once he apologized to Dan for being mad about Dan kissing his girlfriend in the season 3 finale, he never recovered.   He dates whatever guest star the writers are obsessed with, and he hangs out at his apt with Chuck.  That is Nate.   After fan outcry, he got more of a significant story in season 5, but he is still the go-to guy for all female guest stars.  He did not even warrant sharing a scene with Blair after his cousin killed her baby.  

 

So why the hate for Nate and Chuck?  Lets roll back to season 3.   The second part of season 3, saw three couple emerge on Gossip GirlChuck/Blair, Nate/Serena and Dan/Vanessa.   Fans were thrilled and excited to have the NJBC together and in a couple.   They were thrilled to see Dan and Vanessa condensed in one storyline for ease of ignoring.  This replaced the NYU Dan/Vanessa focused storyline and, in myopinion, Josh never forgave.  Both NJBC couples were deconstructed to plan for a Dan-centered arc.   Why?  Was Dan a fan favorite?  Were viewers asking for this?  Nope, but the very popular Nate and Chuck were put on the back burner or, in Chucks case, thrown under a very big bus to facilitate making both girls all about Dan. 

 

 

 

Josh Safran vs. The Fan

 

I am not going to discuss Spoilergate.   It has been discussed before and in-depth.  I have a very close friend who constantly says that there was never a leak.   It was discussed before on this blog, so I won’t go into detail because most of you know what happened.   What I will say is thisJosh Safran contacted fans and asked them to spy on other fans who shipped different things.   He traded spoilers and information, and even named a character after someone who helped.   This witch hunt was led by Josh with his approval.   The buck stops there. I know it generated buzz and it took the focus away from a weak season 4 finale, but can you think of one other showrunner that would do this?  I can’t.   That is not even the worst of it.   There has also been complaint tweets from the @ggwriters about fans complaining,  a production assistant that RTs negative tweets about CB fans, and a multitude of interviews where he has pointed out how awful the fans are.   I am not asking for him to kiss anyone’s ass, but showing some respect for the people who care about and watch your program would be a start.   His distast for and hatred of all the fans is in sharp contrast to Josh Schwartz, who tries to make everything light and fun, and Stephanie Savage who despite not loving the spotlight - always took the time to thank the viewers.   Josh Safran, with his protected twitter and his team of writers, seems to despise anyone who does not respond to his genius in a way he likes.   I fear that he has lost sight of the fact that he is basically feeding himself off the goodwill that Schwartz and Savage earned.   Under his reign of terrorthe ratings have plummeted and NYMag hasdowngraded The Greatest Show Of Our Time to just a show.  No one thinks a show run by fans is a great idea.  I can’t think of anything worse.  That being said, before you destroy Blair/Serena and dismiss the two male leads, you might want to do a temperature check because that is a big move that is not fan-friendly at all.

 

 

 

Final Thoughts

 

I can’t imagine jumping into the next Josh Safran show once this show is put out of its misery. Can you?

 

Lastly, Josh Safran is a writer who clearly spent some part of his youth/young adult life living in Brooklyn.  Perhaps, instead of using therapy, he is working out issues through his self insert?

~The March Hare

1. Hypocrites Through and Through Alice:  I always find it entertaining when certain fans talk about this group or that group cheating when they themselves end up being the ones who want “help” trend their couple. Take Dan and Blair fans here, who have decided that getting other fandoms to trend for them is an “honest” representation of their fanbase :http://becila.tumblr.com/post/17384206717/help-vote-dean-castielMelissa @MelDairlingeonline.com/news/watch_wit… “https://twitter.com/#!/#dair fans please vote for Dean/Castiel ! they’ll help us trend Dan and Blair kiss on monday! Spread the love!! :DEna C @youdefinebeauty        #DAIR FANS! help #Destiel Fans and VOTE FOR THEM HERE: de.eonline.com/news/watch_wit… THEY WILL HELP US TREND ON MONDAY IN RETURN :)@sodairing      IF YOU WANT TO HELP ‘DAN AND BLAIR KISS’ ON MONDAY. VOTE DEAN AND CASTIEL IN TV’S TOP TV COUPLES. IF THEY WIN, THEY’LL HELP US OUT!I really don’t care who trends what, the biggest problem I have here is fans once again pretending they’re angels who do no wrong while accusing others of cheating. There are many forms of cheating and none is any worse or better than the next, but stop the hypocrisy. Stop accusing a group of  “cheating” when you are admitting to getting another fanbase to skew how “great” your couple is. I don’t know whether to feel sorry for this fanbase anymore or to just keep laughing at them. The March Hare: Oh, Alice, didn’t you know Chair fans bad but DB fans always good.   I have to say that I do understand that DB fans are a little desperate now.  CB has owned trending this season, both the planned and unplanned type.  I have to tell you I received a tweet a couple of weeks ago from someone about DB trending during the episode, and that person was also spamming the writers.  Saying “LOOK DB WORLDWIDE TREND.  You have to do them because they are clearly so popular”  So I asked when DB trended and it was for about 5 minutes before the episodes compared to Chair to who trended all episode.   Do you see where I am going with the flaws in their argument?  They want to pretend to be this huge ship, just like they pretend DB added viewers when clearly it did not.   There should be a game called “Spot the lie from the DB fan.”   Do they understand that the writers and producers get real data so all the lies make them look pathetic?2. Twitter Me This, Twitter Me ThatAnother thing I have a problem with are fans making assumptions about others, all because of who they ship. The ship wars drive me crazy, but the fixation fans have on each other is actually quite sad: Laurene B @LaureneB82        @missivthegreat Chairios are Chuck fans and Blair haters.Laurene B @LaureneB82    @missivthegreat Dair fans treat Blair the same way Dan does. Chairios… You can guess LOLLaurene B @LaureneB82According to Chairios, the real Blair is Chuck’s Blair: a woman abused and humiliated without dignity!I think there’s a problem with the couple you ship or your reason for shipping them if you have to go after fans of another couple and degrade them because you like another pairing. What right do you have to tell fans who they should like? More importantly, why are you so concerned with who people ship and why if your couple is the greatest thing since sliced bread are you doing this? Fangirls, try to be decent every once in awhile and focus on what you like. Unless what you like just isn’t that interesting and you can’t talk about anything else but other fans, then I just don’t understand this type of  “shipping”. The March Hare: Alice, thank you for bringing this up. I would love to have one of the more aggressive DB fans join us to discuss or even hear an excuse.  I watch the writers’ timeline, and I also watch key CB fans.  I know who is out there, and I know who is active.   One thing I’ve noticed is crazy/angry DB fans attacking CB fans with no provocation.   They realize this is a couple on the show Gossip Girl, right? This is not the Republicans primary; let’s all simmer down.    I am always curious what these people think attacking CB fans accomplishes?  Plus, because I am petty, I’m going to point out the obvious: Chuck is not abusive.  That is canon.  Just because you have weird Leighton/Blair issues (future restraining order recipient) is no excuse for this kind of stupidity.   Here is my helpful hints for all these people: “You are not Blair.  Your struggles are not the same.   The blond girl who beat you at everything in high school is just more talented.  She wasn’t favored.   The guy who chose college over you isn’t abusive, he is just a teenager.  Leighton is a talented actress, but she doesn’t need you to defend her and Blair every second.  She has it covered.”  You’re welcome, DB fans.3. Moments of Sanity in the Fandom It’s not often that I compliment this fandom, but I want to give a shout out to this tumblr: http://ggirlsss.tumblr.com/ I think with people sending things like the following, these women deserve a job well done : http://ggirlsss.tumblr.com/post/17451461678Anonymous asked, “Why are you excluding Dan, fuckfaces? It’s no wonder the entire fandom and the writers hate you sexually frustrated housewives.”Whoa, whoa, whoa! Is that the mouth you kiss your mother with? Excluding Dan? Where? The podcast? I thought y’all were complaining that we talk shit about him way too much? Besides, we had the lovely Vik this week, who is a Dan/Blair fan. Or you mean our tumblr? Because that decision was made based on us Fab Five being the Uber-Judging Breakfast Club, so we only included the series Fab Four. You do understand the concept “play on words,” right? I would hate to have to explain that to you…I didn’t realize that angry, rabid Dan fans made up the entire fandom, but I’ll look into this and bring it up to the other girls. And hate is a strong word. We like to use the word disdain instead, but a lot of the time the feeling can be mutual, so we don’t take it to heart, and we really hope @GGWriters don’t either. They sure love their passionate fans, don’t they? We can sometimes get a little too passionate.And if I am a housewife, my mother wants to know where my husband is, now! How dare you get her hopes up that way!?!? Don’t you understand that every Jewish mother’s dream is to send her daughter off in marriage so she can give her grandchildren to spoil?!?! As for being sexually frustrated, well, you sound pretty sexually frustrated yourself. Very angry. Ever heard of the vibrating bunny? Maybe you need one… Or do what I do! Read NoWhiteNoise’s awesome photo recaps! A good laugh is always fun, and it makes you so much less bitter. You could always see a therapist, if the bunny or the recap doesn’t do it for you.Alice: These ladies dealt with the same angry, rabid fans that are tainting the fandom by attacking others for their opinions. I think the question I have for those anons sending in questions is, do they realize how foolish they look going off in such irrational ways about fiction? Does calling someone a “fuck face” because you don’t like their opinions make you look rational? Does discussing these real people’s lady parts make you look sane in your minds? All these anons are doing is embarrassing themselves and the fanbase they are representing. And it’s not just the ones here, it’s across the board. So, fans, can you please stop making yourselves look this deranged over a show, or is it too much to ask that you try and be decent human beings? Sometimes it’s hard to see much good that comes out of this fandom, but all I can do is applaud these ladies for maintaining their sense of humor and rationale while dealing with these “special” fans.The March Hare: I don’t get it.   Was this insane Dan fan forced to go to the ggirlsss tumblr?   Was it assigned in some school class?  Also, is it sponsored by the show?  I mean, if any one of these things were true, maybe they could complain.  It would still be incredibly pathetic, but there would at least be a reason to complain.  Now it just strikes me as somewhat weird that you have this person yelling at a fansite for not posting what she wants.  You know, if you really wanted more Dan you should start your own Dan/Penn tumblr.  Fill it with gifs of Dan’s various facial expressions.  Do it!! I dare you, LOL.I think, right now, the land of anonymity is making people believe it’s ok to be incredible assholes.   It does not.  It makes you way more pathetic that you have to hide behind an anonymous ask box, but it also doesn’t make you a hero.  Yelling at people because they are not exactly like you or love exactly the same things that you do does not make you cool.  It makes you a bully.  I know you think that you are being impressive and that you will go on your little anon website and claim victory, but what did you win?  What did you want to win?  At a certain point with the threatening and the bullying, isn’t the DB fan becoming everything they say they hate about other couples?  Have they forgotten that the people they are harassing are real and Blair, well, is not?Alice: You bring up a good point. These fans are not forced to go on other people’s tumblrs. Frankly, I think going on another’s tumblr is like being invited into someone’s room, in a sense. You don’t go in there to criticize or get angry because someone puts up a painting or has a bed you don’t like. You are invited into someone’s personal space online where they can choose what to like and what not to. They are allowing you to see a part of them and are sharing their personal tastes with you. Be respectful and mindful, because no one has to share this with you. It’s a privilege, not your right.Just a note: While it’s not only the Dan and Blair fans in the Gossipgirl fandom who doesthis, I just see that fanbase being more aggressive about it and are usually the ones pointing fingers when they are a flawed fandomthemselves.

1. Hypocrites Through and Through

Alice:  I always find it entertaining when certain fans talk about this group or that group cheating when they themselves end up being the ones who want “help” trend their couple. Take Dan and Blair fans here, who have decided that getting other fandoms to trend for them is an “honest” representation of their fanbase :

http://becila.tumblr.com/post/17384206717/help-vote-dean-castiel

Melissa @MelDairling

eonline.com/news/watch_wit… “https://twitter.com/#!/#dair fans please vote for Dean/Castiel ! they’ll help us trend Dan and Blair kiss on monday! Spread the love!! :D

Ena C @youdefinebeauty
       
#DAIR FANS! help #Destiel Fans and VOTE FOR THEM HERE: de.eonline.com/news/watch_wit… THEY WILL HELP US TREND ON MONDAY IN RETURN :)

@sodairing
     
IF YOU WANT TO HELP ‘DAN AND BLAIR KISS’ ON MONDAY. VOTE DEAN AND CASTIEL IN TV’S TOP TV COUPLES. IF THEY WIN, THEY’LL HELP US OUT!


I really don’t care who trends what, the biggest problem I have here is fans once again pretending they’re angels who do no wrong while accusing others of cheating. There are many forms of cheating and none is any worse or better than the next, but stop the hypocrisy. Stop accusing a group of  “cheating” when you are admitting to getting another fanbase to skew how “great” your couple is. I don’t know whether to feel sorry for this fanbase anymore or to just keep laughing at them.


The March Hare: Oh, Alice, didn’t you know Chair fans bad but DB fans always good.   I have to say that I do understand that DB fans are a little desperate now.  CB has owned trending this season, both the planned and unplanned type.  I have to tell you I received a tweet a couple of weeks ago from someone about DB trending during the episode, and that person was also spamming the writers.  Saying “LOOK DB WORLDWIDE TREND.  You have to do them because they are clearly so popular”  So I asked when DB trended and it was for about 5 minutes before the episodes compared to Chair to who trended all episode.   Do you see where I am going with the flaws in their argument?  They want to pretend to be this huge ship, just like they pretend DB added viewers when clearly it did not.   There should be a game called “Spot the lie from the DB fan.”   Do they understand that the writers and producers get real data so all the lies make them look pathetic?


2. Twitter Me This, Twitter Me That

Another thing I have a problem with are fans making assumptions about others, all because of who they ship. The ship wars drive me crazy, but the fixation fans have on each other is actually quite sad:

Laurene B @LaureneB82
        @missivthegreat Chairios are Chuck fans and Blair haters.

Laurene B @LaureneB82
   
@missivthegreat Dair fans treat Blair the same way Dan does. Chairios… You can guess LOL

Laurene B @LaureneB82

According to Chairios, the real Blair is Chuck’s Blair: a woman abused and humiliated without dignity!


I think there’s a problem with the couple you ship or your reason for shipping them if you have to go after fans of another couple and degrade them because you like another pairing. What right do you have to tell fans who they should like? More importantly, why are you so concerned with who people ship and why if your couple is the greatest thing since sliced bread are you doing this? Fangirls, try to be decent every once in awhile and focus on what you like. Unless what you like just isn’t that interesting and you can’t talk about anything else but other fans, then I just don’t understand this type of  “shipping”.

The March Hare: Alice, thank you for bringing this up. I would love to have one of the more aggressive DB fans join us to discuss or even hear an excuse.  I watch the writers’ timeline, and I also watch key CB fans.  I know who is out there, and I know who is active.   One thing I’ve noticed is crazy/angry DB fans attacking CB fans with no provocation.   They realize this is a couple on the show Gossip Girl, right? This is not the Republicans primary; let’s all simmer down.    I am always curious what these people think attacking CB fans accomplishes?  

Plus, because I am petty, I’m going to point out the obvious: Chuck is not abusive.  That is canon.  Just because you have weird Leighton/Blair issues (future restraining order recipient) is no excuse for this kind of stupidity.   Here is my helpful hints for all these people: “You are not Blair.  Your struggles are not the same.   The blond girl who beat you at everything in high school is just more talented.  She wasn’t favored.   The guy who chose college over you isn’t abusive, he is just a teenager.  Leighton is a talented actress, but she doesn’t need you to defend her and Blair every second.  She has it covered.”  You’re welcome, DB fans.



3. Moments of Sanity in the Fandom

It’s not often that I compliment this fandom, but I want to give a shout out to this tumblr: http://ggirlsss.tumblr.com/

I think with people sending things like the following, these women deserve a job well done :

http://ggirlsss.tumblr.com/post/17451461678

Anonymous asked, “Why are you excluding Dan, fuckfaces? It’s no wonder the entire fandom and the writers hate you sexually frustrated housewives.”

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Is that the mouth you kiss your mother with? Excluding Dan? Where? The podcast? I thought y’all were complaining that we talk shit about him way too much? Besides, we had the lovely Vik this week, who is a Dan/Blair fan. Or you mean our tumblr? Because that decision was made based on us Fab Five being the Uber-Judging Breakfast Club, so we only included the series Fab Four. You do understand the concept “play on words,” right? I would hate to have to explain that to you…

I didn’t realize that angry, rabid Dan fans made up the entire fandom, but I’ll look into this and bring it up to the other girls. And hate is a strong word. We like to use the word disdain instead, but a lot of the time the feeling can be mutual, so we don’t take it to heart, and we really hope @GGWriters don’t either. They sure love their passionate fans, don’t they? We can sometimes get a little too passionate.

And if I am a housewife, my mother wants to know where my husband is, now! How dare you get her hopes up that way!?!? Don’t you understand that every Jewish mother’s dream is to send her daughter off in marriage so she can give her grandchildren to spoil?!?! As for being sexually frustrated, well, you sound pretty sexually frustrated yourself. Very angry. Ever heard of the vibrating bunny? Maybe you need one… Or do what I do! Read NoWhiteNoise’s awesome photo recaps! A good laugh is always fun, and it makes you so much less bitter. You could always see a therapist, if the bunny or the recap doesn’t do it for you.


Alice: These ladies dealt with the same angry, rabid fans that are tainting the fandom by attacking others for their opinions. I think the question I have for those anons sending in questions is, do they realize how foolish they look going off in such irrational ways about fiction? Does calling someone a “fuck face” because you don’t like their opinions make you look rational? Does discussing these real people’s lady parts make you look sane in your minds? All these anons are doing is embarrassing themselves and the fanbase they are representing. And it’s not just the ones here, it’s across the board. So, fans, can you please stop making yourselves look this deranged over a show, or is it too much to ask that you try and be decent human beings? Sometimes it’s hard to see much good that comes out of this fandom, but all I can do is applaud these ladies for maintaining their sense of humor and rationale while dealing with these “special” fans.


The March Hare: I don’t get it.   Was this insane Dan fan forced to go to the ggirlsss tumblr?   Was it assigned in some school class?  Also, is it sponsored by the show?  I mean, if any one of these things were true, maybe they could complain.  It would still be incredibly pathetic, but there would at least be a reason to complain.  Now it just strikes me as somewhat weird that you have this person yelling at a fansite for not posting what she wants.  You know, if you really wanted more Dan you should start your own Dan/Penn tumblr.  Fill it with gifs of Dan’s various facial expressions.  Do it!! I dare you, LOL.

I think, right now, the land of anonymity is making people believe it’s ok to be incredible assholes.   It does not.  It makes you way more pathetic that you have to hide behind an anonymous ask box, but it also doesn’t make you a hero.  Yelling at people because they are not exactly like you or love exactly the same things that you do does not make you cool.  It makes you a bully.  I know you think that you are being impressive and that you will go on your little anon website and claim victory, but what did you win?  What did you want to win?  At a certain point with the threatening and the bullying, isn’t the DB fan becoming everything they say they hate about other couples?  Have they forgotten that the people they are harassing are real and Blair, well, is not?

Alice: You bring up a good point. These fans are not forced to go on other people’s tumblrs. Frankly, I think going on another’s tumblr is like being invited into someone’s room, in a sense. You don’t go in there to criticize or get angry because someone puts up a painting or has a bed you don’t like. You are invited into someone’s personal space online where they can choose what to like and what not to. They are allowing you to see a part of them and are sharing their personal tastes with you. Be respectful and mindful, because no one has to share this with you. It’s a privilege, not your right.


Just a note: While it’s not only the Dan and Blair fans in the Gossipgirl fandom who does
this, I just see that fanbase being more aggressive about it and are usually the ones pointing fingers when they are a flawed fandom
themselves.

It looks like the fandom still wants to remain in its Abigail Williams state (if you haven’t read the Crucible, then go look her up and start reading some real literature, people). Like Abigail crying about being under witch craft and pointing fingers at the “witches” who “made” her sin, we have some DB fans crying to the writers about other people sending death threats when their own fanbase is joining in.
morsmordres dair lover
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@GGWriters Death threats are how you know you’re awesome! You’re not anyone until people want you dead. ;)
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You mean ones like this:
HegaMega111 Jane
@GGWriters Fuck you for stringing Dair fans along. May you all rot in hell.
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I’m not sure rotting in hell is any more pleasant than death threats. It is eternity, after all. And let’s go a step further and check out this  “pleasant” thing I stumbled across on tumblr:
http://thedevilwearsbowties.tumblr.com/post/16493529064/reply-oh-my-god-i-really-cannot-believe
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I don’t understand fans saying things like this to other fans: “I hope you’ll one day be in an abusive relationships”, “you deserve to die it just like in the Titanic”, “you’re a fucking animal your ship will never be endgame I feel bad for you”, “you and your whole ship burns in hell”. People, this is a television show, and you are making a disgusting display over fictional characters on one of the worst rated shows on TV. Now, I’ve been informed that Dan and Blair fans consider themselves the “intelligent” fanbase. But if this is “intelligence,” who wants to be a part of it? Please stop this kind of sick behavior because you are talking to real people about characters that aren’t.
Tell me, fans, when are you going to grow up?
And I won’t ignore the writers for being hypocrites themselves, either. Tell me, writers, aren’t you the ones doing this? Encouraging it? Please quit pointing the finger at Hester Prynne and wear your own Scarlett Letter. You encouraged fanwars and you, in turn, are responsible for writing a series that many fans have turned away from or despise. Take responsibility for your writing and stop blaming fans for your own failures on this show.
Passion of the Fanbase: People, can’t we all just get along?! “The thing that makes me sad is when they turn on each other,” Safran says. “They can say whatever they want to about us, they can say, ‘We hate you, we hope you die!’ Honestly we can take it, that’s our job.” Safran says he relates to fans who prefer one couple over another thanks to his Felicity obession. (Yes, this makes us love the man even more!) I remember watching Felicity and the whole sort of Noel (Scott Foley)-Ben (Scott Speedman) thing. Of course I used to get so mad because of course I was on one side. I understand where they’re coming from.” 
Aren’t these the same writers that tweeted the following:
julieplec julieplec
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@GGWriters inaccurate spoilers? all hail Dair!
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GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers
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We heart @julieplec.
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How are you not encouraging fan wars? If you don’t think they’re encouraging fan wars and anger, just go read their Timeline.
The next part of the interview I really enjoyed. Yes, I said enjoyed. Mr. Safran actually admitted his audience has declined over the past few years. I know, we’re all left with our mouths hanging open:
While the writers couldn’t include all of the nods to previous episodes that they wanted to, Safran says “they’ll be on the DVD.” Still, if you are one of those viewers who tuned out in the last season or two (Tsk-tsk!), Safran says, “I think that you can actually jump back in.” While he wouldn’t say much about the plot of the milestone hour, Safran teases, “I think it’s a really great episode and every one of our leads has a full story.”
Read more: http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/whenmdashand_howmdashwill_gossip_girl/288542#ixzz1ktuy0yOvhttp://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/whenmdashand_howmdashwill_gossip_girl/288542
Thank you for pointing out the obvious, Mr. Safran, but what are you going to do about it? You and your crew have yet to make changes that benefit the show this season, and you continue to blame the audience for leaving when you have shown little respect for fans in your writing and in your previous statements. Do you really think fans will come back after you have shown such little regard for them? All you can do is salvage what you have left and hope you can turn this show around by ending it with some dignity. You might want to start with finding Blair Waldorf again. You know, the strong, alpha female she once was not a pathetic character who can’t seem to find her way out of a paper bag.
I give props to NYMagazine for its criticism of the show, it’s just too bad the writers failed to catch its jabs at them:
“You can’t break belief.”

Or can you? It was we who believed that Gossip Girl was the Greatest Show of Our Time, we pointed out, but lately we haven’t been so sure. “Next week’s episode will revitalize you,” Safran promised, indicating that the show will contain a Big Twist—and possibly reveal the identity of Gossip Girl herself. And after that, Savage assured us, there will be many, many more episodes to come. “We don’t plan on ending the show this season,” she said. Yay?
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2012/01/mayor-bloomberg-proclaims-today-gossip-girl-day.html
Judging by fans on boards, twitter, and the obvious source of measuring a show (ratings) …
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/GGfans.png
I’d say “Nay”.

It looks like the fandom still wants to remain in its Abigail Williams state (if you haven’t read the Crucible, then go look her up and start reading some real literature, people). Like Abigail crying about being under witch craft and pointing fingers at the “witches” who “made” her sin, we have some DB fans crying to the writers about other people sending death threats when their own fanbase is joining in.

morsmordres dair lover

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@GGWriters Death threats are how you know you’re awesome! You’re not anyone until people want you dead. ;)

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-29at70400PM.png

You mean ones like this:

HegaMega111 Jane

@GGWriters Fuck you for stringing Dair fans along. May you all rot in hell.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Picture10.png

I’m not sure rotting in hell is any more pleasant than death threats. It is eternity, after all. And let’s go a step further and check out this  “pleasant” thing I stumbled across on tumblr:

http://thedevilwearsbowties.tumblr.com/post/16493529064/reply-oh-my-god-i-really-cannot-believe

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Picture8.png

I don’t understand fans saying things like this to other fans: “I hope you’ll one day be in an abusive relationships”, “you deserve to die it just like in the Titanic”, “you’re a fucking animal your ship will never be endgame I feel bad for you”, “you and your whole ship burns in hell”. People, this is a television show, and you are making a disgusting display over fictional characters on one of the worst rated shows on TV. Now, I’ve been informed that Dan and Blair fans consider themselves the “intelligent” fanbase. But if this is “intelligence,” who wants to be a part of it? Please stop this kind of sick behavior because you are talking to real people about characters that aren’t.

Tell me, fans, when are you going to grow up?

And I won’t ignore the writers for being hypocrites themselves, either. Tell me, writers, aren’t you the ones doing this? Encouraging it? Please quit pointing the finger at Hester Prynne and wear your own Scarlett Letter. You encouraged fanwars and you, in turn, are responsible for writing a series that many fans have turned away from or despise. Take responsibility for your writing and stop blaming fans for your own failures on this show.

Passion of the Fanbase: People, can’t we all just get along?! “The thing that makes me sad is when they turn on each other,” Safran says. “They can say whatever they want to about us, they can say, ‘We hate you, we hope you die!’ Honestly we can take it, that’s our job.” Safran says he relates to fans who prefer one couple over another thanks to his Felicity obession. (Yes, this makes us love the man even more!) I remember watching Felicity and the whole sort of Noel (Scott Foley)-Ben (Scott Speedman) thing. Of course I used to get so mad because of course I was on one side. I understand where they’re coming from.”

Aren’t these the same writers that tweeted the following:

julieplec julieplec

by GGWriters

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@GGWriters inaccurate spoilers? all hail Dair!

23 Aug Favorite Retweet Reply

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

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We heart @julieplec.

23 Aug Favorite Retweet Reply

How are you not encouraging fan wars? If you don’t think they’re encouraging fan wars and anger, just go read their Timeline.

The next part of the interview I really enjoyed. Yes, I said enjoyed. Mr. Safran actually admitted his audience has declined over the past few years. I know, we’re all left with our mouths hanging open:

While the writers couldn’t include all of the nods to previous episodes that they wanted to, Safran says “they’ll be on the DVD.” Still, if you are one of those viewers who tuned out in the last season or two (Tsk-tsk!), Safran says, “I think that you can actually jump back in.” While he wouldn’t say much about the plot of the milestone hour, Safran teases, “I think it’s a really great episode and every one of our leads has a full story.”

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/whenmdashand_howmdashwill_gossip_girl/288542#ixzz1ktuy0yOvhttp://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/whenmdashand_howmdashwill_gossip_girl/288542

Thank you for pointing out the obvious, Mr. Safran, but what are you going to do about it? You and your crew have yet to make changes that benefit the show this season, and you continue to blame the audience for leaving when you have shown little respect for fans in your writing and in your previous statements. Do you really think fans will come back after you have shown such little regard for them? All you can do is salvage what you have left and hope you can turn this show around by ending it with some dignity. You might want to start with finding Blair Waldorf again. You know, the strong, alpha female she once was not a pathetic character who can’t seem to find her way out of a paper bag.

I give props to NYMagazine for its criticism of the show, it’s just too bad the writers failed to catch its jabs at them:

“You can’t break belief.”

Or can you? It was we who believed that Gossip Girl was the Greatest Show of Our Time, we pointed out, but lately we haven’t been so sure. “Next week’s episode will revitalize you,” Safran promised, indicating that the show will contain a Big Twist—and possibly reveal the identity of Gossip Girl herself. And after that, Savage assured us, there will be many, many more episodes to come. “We don’t plan on ending the show this season,” she said. Yay?

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2012/01/mayor-bloomberg-proclaims-today-gossip-girl-day.html

Judging by fans on boards, twitter, and the obvious source of measuring a show (ratings) …

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/GGfans.png

I’d say “Nay”.

 It’s a new year and one of my resolutions was to keep this blog updated as much as I could during these trying Gossip Girl times, so I’d like to start by introducing a little Round Table of sorts. I’ll usually have a guest or two comment on what’s going on. Of course, by “what’s going on,” I mean interesting little comments and posts I’ve found around the fandom. My guest tonight is the March Hare, who has been out and about GGland a little more than I have recently.
 
For those who were naughty last year, you might have a little Karmic kickback. For those who were nice, you have nothing to do but sit back and enjoy. 
 
Chapter 1: Reading in GGLand is Challenging 
 
 
Alice: “I found this on tumblr :http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Dairintellegence.jpg and couldn’t help but to add my own thoughts. Here is a Dan and Blair fan making fun of Chuck and Blair fans for “cheating” on this Portrait Poll for TV’s couples (http://www.portraitmagazine.net ). The thing is, the fans don’t seem to be cheating when the site itself actually says “you can now vote as many times as you like”. One has to wonder if these Dan and Blair fans simply have difficulty reading, or if they are just upset that Chuck and Blair are in the poll and winning it whereas Dan and Blair are not even listed in the top couples to vote on? 

I rather liked this tumblr I found on this: http://maribells.tumblr.com/post/14538913459/signaturescarf-whatisfandom-source. Who knew there was sanity and people who could read in GGLand!?”
 
The March Hare: "I have noticed before that they struggle to understand Gossip Girl, so if I had to guess I would say this points to a failure in some education system.  I feel like cheating and rigging are fairly basic words, as is the phrase "now you can vote as many times as you like".  The fact that they do not seem to understand these words leads me to feel sadness for their parents and teachers.
 
 
Chapter 2: Trolling in the GGLand Deep  
 
Alice: “Speaking of questionable reading skills, we were combing through some fanfiction recently and this fandom’s responses there always have their share of “special” to them. Take this reaction from a Chuck and Blair fanfiction, where a “fan” commented with this:
 
'Correction this is how only chair fanatics who want blair with nobody else but chuck who abuses her wants dair to be.'  (http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at64126PM.png )
 
 
Remember this was from a Chuck and Blair fanfiction, so one of two things happened here. A Dan and Blair fan stumbled on this fanfiction and didn’t read that it said Chuck and Blair, or they intentionally read the fic and decided to comment on it because they were so offended. Now, tell me if I’m wrong here, but if you hate a couple you claim is abusive why are you reading this fanfiction? Do you think something categorized as Chuck and Blair means it’s about Dan and Blair? Is this another case of our elementary schools failing to teach basic reading skills across the nation? I actually wish that was the case, but I think it’s more of a Dan and Blair fan reading Chuck and Blair fiction and just being a troll who likes to put down a others’ work and preferences. A little note for fans who don’t like couples, yet read and comment on the fiction: You aren’t the target audience for that story (that’s why it specifically labels what couple the fic is about), nor does that writer care to please you. The main question I have for you is why are you reading about something you hate? I have a fear of snakes (which is why it’s remarkable I can wade through this fandom at all) - do you think I venture into snake houses at zoos? If you don’t like something, don’t go towards it and, for goodness sake, don’t make a comment that makes you look like an asshole unless your intention is to get made fun of.”
 
The March Hare: “See, this is where I get confused.  If a fic is labeled Chuck and Blair and you think they are awful and abusive, you may want to avoid that fic.  And in regards to commenting on it, I have to ask why? These are fictional characters.   If someone sees something differently, why call them names and try to bully them into seeing your point of view?  If your couple is awesome and great, go read their fics and discuss them.   I also think the abuse argument is one of those absolutes that make your whole argument invalid.  People only use it when they want a moral high ground that does not exist.”
 
 
Chapter 3: GGLand likes Screaming Abuse! 

Alice: ”The abuse card seems to get played a little too often in this fandom, and they even try to validate it with made up things they assume happened and count as fact. Take this post from Kid Chino on TWOP (Television Without Pity):
 
'If it wasn't domestic abuse then why did EL shoot a PSA about it? I think a lot of people are confusing domestic abuse with domestic violence. While all domestic violence is also domestic abuse, not all domestic abuse qualifies as domestic violence' - Kid Chino (TWOP) 
( http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/kidchino.png )
 
 Either I missed an episode or senility has taken over, but I don’t recall a PSA coming on after this Gossip Girl episode and certainly not one that had Ed Westwick or Leighton Meester talking about abuse. Apparently those in the fandom can say a PSA was shot and it’s the absolute truth, yet no one saw this PSA and it was never discussed in the press. Does this mean I can say I’m a millionaire who married Brad Pitt and we have children together, and that’s the truth? Does it mean I’m Angelina Jolie now because I said so? Should I go find Brad and tell him I’m his wife so he’ll go along with it, too? And as far as the abuse argument goes, if you truly think there is abuse on this show and are so offended by it, why in the world are you watching? If you are so repulsed then why keep coming back to the show? It’s things like these that make this fandom so “unique.”
 
The March Hare: Oh, the mythical PSA. The funny thing is that the fact that they pretend this further proves how fictional it all is. Basically some people shot a PSA on set and had their pictures taken with Ed and Leighton, who were wearing the outfits from 4.20. Now, despite the fact that the companies website shows that they were working on a bone marrow campaign that Chace appeared on, suddenly there is an abuse PSA that for some reason never aired. 

Also this summer Just Jared asked Leighton who she thought was right for Blair Chuck, Dan or Louis and she chose Chuck. Is Leighton pro-abuse? I mean does she hate women and Blair? Or perhaps the writers and producers just haven’t told her yet that her character is in an abusive relationship. That must be it, because you know that if a blogger says it than it must be true. I mean what do the writers, directors, producers and actress involved know?”
 
Alice: This is why I’m glad you’re here, March Hare, I didn’t know what was being shot but it makes it that much worse that a noble promotion for the fight against cancer was twisted to try and fit some crazy fans delusions about their own issues with this show. Pertaining to harassing the writers and producers, it’s been done countless times already, so I wouldn’t be too shocked if they go after the actors themselves at some point all for the sake of fiction. 

Chapter 4: In GGLand Numbers are so Elusive!

Alice: Fans in the Fandom seem to have a hard time looking at numbers and rationally evaluating them. Take this fan who recently posted on TVLine:

Ausiello you are my hero, I agree about Dair!!! Never in my life have I seen show writers so scared of a loud group of fans on the internet, they are a minority! The casal fans outnumber us all and as long as it is not boring they will watch. Its ok to let Chair go writers, it really is no one will die and everyone will get over it eventually. Its a tv show for goodness sake!

 Alice: I’ve been studying fans of this fandom pretty closely and what fans react to and what they don’t. The biggest problem I have with blanket statements like these is everything they say is contradictory to what is actually happening in the fandom. If Chuck and Blair fans were so few and far between, and such a small group online, then I have to ask this fan why is it that Chuck and Blair recently trended worldwide http://signaturescarf.tumblr.com/post/13829749380/westwicks-chuck-blair-is-trending-worldwide (something that has not occurred on the show for any other couple at any time in its history)? In fact why when I’m on twitter (where I believe more casual fans are) at random times, are Chuck and Blair tweets far outnumbering Dan and Blair ones (here: http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Twitter1-1-12.jpg )? 
Fanfiction for Chuck and Blair far outnumbers Dan and Blair ones and here are the results from January 14,2012 as an example: http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/fanfiction1-14-12.jpg Why are they leading polls not only against Dan and Blair, but against some of the most popular characters on tv? Here are just a few examples: 
 
 http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at50236PM.png ( http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/12/31/sexy-tv-couples-2012-glee-vampire-diaries-gossip-girl-90210/) 
 
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at53533PM.png) 
(http://www.tvfanatic.com/2011/12/major-blair-louis-scene-ahead-on-gossip-girl/)
 
http://popconfidential.zap2it.com/2011/10/14/who-is-blair-waldorfs-soul-mate-on-gossip-girl (http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at54410PM.png )
 
http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/gossip_girl_poll_chuck_dan/277282 (http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at53947PM.png) 
 
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at53037PM.png
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/12/21/hottest-tv-couples-2011-glee-vampire-diaries-pics/
 
http://www.youknowyouloveme.org/awards11/index.html
 
Why is it that on tumblr Chuck and Blair gifs have high numbers of notes like this http://gggifss.tumblr.com/post/8052581542, but I can’t find a DB one to even match it. I actually find the opposite of what this commentator is saying to be true. I find a loud group on GGAnon (who even admit they talk to themselves sometimes here: http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/anonips.png ) as the loud minority online. When we talk numbers I don’t see where blanket statements like these do one any good when they can’t back it up with anything. From what I can see “letting Chair go” seems a sure fire way to get this show canceled if the writers really care about their numbers.”
 
The March Hare: "I love how this one person knows everything about the casual fan. I also wonder about how he breaks down what should happen based on fan response. I mean, shouldn’t the writers tell the story that makes sense and is organic for the characters? I mean, I know the U.S is having a Presidential election in 2012 but will there also be a choose you own ending for Gossip Girl election? Because if polls are any indication, I think Chair has it, lol. 

Truthfully all indications I have seen from google trend searches (including the word gossip girl to get rid of irrelevant data) to polls to trending to just general searches show that the casual viewer wants Chuck and Blair. Actually I think the casual audience could care less about anything Dan related but, hey, if this person feels differently cool. But what is it they always say? Oh, yes, show us the receipts!!!”
 
Chapter 5 In GGLand “Journalists” Act like GG Fans
 
Alice: “The media in the Gossip Girl fandom seems to be just as childish as some of its fans. Case in point, Tierney Bricker who “reports” for Eonline.com. I don’t mind media having their opinions, but this reporter seems to have definitive bias towards Dan and Blair even in her recaps (just go check out all the reviews for Gossipgirl on Eonline.com). It’s not who she ships that matters but making childish statements like these that makes me have little respect for “journalists” and does not propel me to read their articles online: 
 
tbrick2 tierney bricker
 
In a dream world, #Glee's “Wemma” and #GossipGirl's “Chair” should have their own show, where they live on rainbows and eat unicorn shit.
 
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at122459PM.png
 
 
I understand that they have their preferences ,and I do understand all they want to do is rile up fans and create interest but do comments like these make her credible? Would fans believe what she was telling them? Do you trust “journalists” with biased opinions trying to sway fanbases? I don not.
I also want to say Tierney Bricker is not the worst when it comes to this issue and she can be unbiased at times. I have no problem with her actively liking a couple but I’m just wondering if you, as a reader, take journalist with biased at face value when reading their articles.
 
The March Hare: “I think twitter has made journalists forget their actual job.  I know that sometimes getting a reaction and egging people on seems like a great idea, but you are an adult and at your job, so at the end of the day, this is probably a bad plan.   I follow a lot of TV journalists on twitter. I enjoy their opinions and ideas, and I like TV, so it all works out.  I also evaluate them based on their tweets.  The ones that seem unprofessional and crazy are usually the ones whose opinion I do not value.  Tbrick seems nice enough.  She likes her family and she seems to have a lot of friends in the critics’ community, and she also seems like she is having tons of fun, but sometimes she comes across as a young girl trying to get attention.  She is not as bad as her good friend cadlymack, but cadlymack is not trying to be a journalist.  She is trying to meet celebs that she has a crush on.  She is trying to befriend showrunners she likes.  There is no pretend there: she is just a girl who lucked into a job that helps her achieve these dreams.  More power to her.  No critics take her seriously and celebs/showrunners know her as a fangirl with a blog.  She can be ignored.  Tbrick is an issue because she is at eonline, which is more reputable a site despite being the source of all things Kardashian, so secretly the devil network.  I have noticed Chair and Dair fans disregarding her spoilers and constantly commenting how she is trolling.   Sort of brutal to kill your credibility even with the fanbase you are supposed to be helping.”
 
 
 
 
Chapter 6: In GGland Some Want What Others Have 
 
Alice:  “I ran across this on Tumblr. http://gelibass.tumblr.com/post/15511503839 Okay, I’ve seen fans say how much better Dair is than Chair and vise-versa but when fans come up with this sort of “art,” I have to take a step back and laugh. The “superior”  fanbase that Dan and Blair fans like to proclaim to be (<ahref=”http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/?action=view&current=Screenshot2011-07-09at75609PM.png" target="_blank"><imgsrc="http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2011-07-09at75609PM.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>) have to use Chuck and Blair scenes to make manips of their beloved couple? I know Chuck and Blair have had the bigger, more iconic scenes of this show, but I thought Dair had some interesting scenes of their own in the past. I’m not sure why you would steal another couple’s scenes? Is it because yours is actually not as great as you proclaim? Maybe they aren’t as interesting or entertaining as another? I actually have a little bit of second-hand embarrassment for any fanbase who resorts to this. If you have to compare or put your couple in another couple’s scene, then I have to question why you are rooting for them if you just want what another pairing has? Another oddity in GGLand.”
 
 
The March Hare: “OK. I laughed really hard when I saw the manip.  Personally, I hate all manips.  Chair, Dair, whoever, they freak me out.   I do wonder in general why DB fans are so desperate to compare their couple with another couple.  They were so excited by gossip girl mentioning 3 words 8 letters, they put Dan’s picture in the limo scene…I mean if Chuck and Blair is so done and awful, why do you want what they have so badly.   One thing I have noticed about great couples is that they are very rarely based on past couples.  People like something that stands on its own, and that is what stands the test of time.  It is like how I frequently see Dair fans compare Dan and Blair to Pacey and Joey.  How is that good for your couple?   When I talk about Chuck and Blair and what makes them fantastic I don’t have to mention another character’s name, but with DB there seems to be a desperation to make them into an old TV couple.  Now I realize that we are talking about a show that brags about its ability to plagiarize old literature and movies but… not many writers would settle for an inferior version of someone else’s work when they have a classic that they built themselves.”
 
 
Chapter 7: In GGLand Hypocrisy becomes you

Alice: “First off, I have no problem with people campaigning for couples or characters. It’s not an uncommon theme - shows from Chuck, Pushing Daisies, Jericho, and even soap operas have fans campaigning for them. Saying that, when I see fans making fun of other fans for doing so then starting their own I have to call that out.  I have seen things like this http://call-me-serena.dreamwidth.org/964.html this making fun of Chuck and Blair fans campaigning for their couple, but then I stumble across this: http://ivthegreatest.tumblr.com/post/15515057638/dear-dair-fans-reblog-this. Gossip Girl fandom, I’m confused right now. How is this any different from something  like this:http://savechuckandblair.tumblr.com/post/13557762594/we-knew-chuck-still-loved-blair-and-now-we-know ? It’s fine if you want to campaign, just don’t mock each other for campaigning and then turn around and do it yourself, and certainly don’t pretend trending doesn’t matter ( http://thespectatorxoxo.tumblr.com/post/13987219450/hypocrisy-irrelevant-gganon) and then plead and beg for other fanbases to help you trend. Come on, GGland, let’s not be this hypocritical.”
 
The March Hare: “This is pretty embarrassing for them.  I have never understood why they are so judgmental about Chair fans organizing or planning.  That has happened with TV shows since the beginning of time.  Fans with similar likes flock together and campaign for what they want.  It is not new, and it is not exciting.  I do appreciate all the work they do pointing out to everyone else in the fandom how large and organized the Chuck and Blair sector is.  It is always helpful when your enemies do your work for you.   I also love how they have all looked down on the trending so much, and yet now are begging other fandoms to help them.   Again, they so badly want what Chair has, and they would kill for Dan to be Chuck but it is never going to happen so let it go.”
 
Chapter 8 In GGLand Writers Are Confused By What Fans Care About
 
Alice: “We can’t have a Round Table without discussing the Gossip Girl writers. I think to see why fans are displeased with the show, you always have to go to its source and what the show is messing up for fans. One particular statement that interested me was this one by the head writer/producer of Gossip Girl, Josh Safran:

THR: The storylines seem to affect Blair more so than the other characters ..
Safran: It’s always been about the two girls (Serena and Blair) and their friendship has been the central conceit of the show and that remains very much the case this season. In the premiere, Serena’s in L.A. and Blair is in New York. Once they both get in New York, it’s very clearly still both of them. Serena will be returning to New York, which you’ll see in the second episode, at the end. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/gossip-girl-boss-talks-blairs-243166)

 Now, I don’t watch the show like I used to, but I have caught some of it on youtube just to do this Tumblr and I have seen very little that would indicate this show has been anything but about Blair this season. From the outset we saw this from Safran’s interviews ( http://www.tvline.com/2011/09/gossip-girl-season-5-preview-josh-safran/, http://entertainment.newsplurk.com/2012/01/gossip-girl-first-look-is-chuck-dead.html, http://www.popsugar.com/Blair-Waldorf-Wedding-Dress-Pictures-Gossip-Girl-Set-20418792, http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/10/12/blair-waldorf-pregnant-photos-leighton-meester/, http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/gossip-girl-boss-talks-blairs-243166) All Gossip Girl showrunners seem to be interested in is making this the Blair Waldorf show, even though the character of Blair Waldorf has lost her ability to make decisions and needs to be rescued by a male (but taking your strongest female lead and turning her into a whimpering fool is a whole new topic in itself). Even last year they were intent on this focus http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00040229.html despite the fact that it drove in the show’s lowest ratings the second half of last season. I do understand that Blair is a popular character and is one of the mains on this show, but very little has told me that this season has much to do with Serena. I’d say her screen time has been cut significantly, and with headlines like these that focus on “Blair and her men,” I don’t think that’s changing any time soon. As a fan of the first and second seasons, I always liked the balancing of story lines and the friendship Gossip Girl had built for Blair and Serena, and the rest of the cast as well. You would think Gossip Girl show runners would have evaluated their season last year and looked at what focusing on just one or two characters did - it had viewers changing the channel. I don’t know if it’s because they have a different show runner in Safran, or because hardly any of the original writers from season one and two are there. If I was a new writer, I think I would look at what worked and had audiences interested at one time instead of stubbornly banging my head against the wall and losing a once loyal fanbase.”

 
The March Hare: “I agree with everything you are saying. I also think Josh himself explains the problems with the show. The Blair and Serena friendship has been the central conceit of the show since the beginning. That is why it worked. This season, the only signs I have seen that this friendship is important is when Josh speaks of it to a reporter. I think in total they have shared less than 10 scenes. Serena has had almost no role in Blair’s wedding or her pregnancy. Blair has shown no interest in anything related to Serena. They have taken away one of the best traits each girl had, which is their deep love for each other. How is Serena not realizing that Blair is falling apart? How is Blair ok with the way Dan treats Serena? Who are these characters?

‘Everyone Love’s Blair’ deserves its own discussion. No idea who decided to take an ensemble show and make it all about one character, but that person needs to be fired. I agree with you that Serena’s role has been dramatically reduced to allow this story to unfold at an incredibly leisurely rate. Right now the only thing that the writers seem to care about is the idea that every male character must love Blair, and that Blair can no longer make the most basic decisions. Its like just as they have made it so every man who meets her becomes obsessed with her, they have alternatively made Blair the most unappealing version of herself. Do you remember the Blair who could see through anyone? Do you remember the Blair who liked a takedown as much as sex and could do one in her sleep? Can you imagine this Blair doing a takedown? This Blair is being manipulated by Louis and Dan. This Blair has to confer with at least 2 people before making the most basic life decision. Way to wreck your best character, ggwriters.”
Our first Round Table comes to an end, but don’t fret because you fans are still out there and I’m still watching you.
A special thanks to the March Hare for participating,the White Rabbit for her dedication, and to my new recruit, the Cheshire Cat, who has dug up some great dirt.

 It’s a new year and one of my resolutions was to keep this blog updated as much as I could during these trying Gossip Girl times, so I’d like to start by introducing a little Round Table of sorts. I’ll usually have a guest or two comment on what’s going on. Of course, by “what’s going on,” I mean interesting little comments and posts I’ve found around the fandom. My guest tonight is the March Hare, who has been out and about GGland a little more than I have recently.

 

For those who were naughty last year, you might have a little Karmic kickback. For those who were nice, you have nothing to do but sit back and enjoy. 

 

Chapter 1: Reading in GGLand is Challenging 

 

 

Alice:I found this on tumblr :http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Dairintellegence.jpg and couldn’t help but to add my own thoughts. Here is a Dan and Blair fan making fun of Chuck and Blair fans for “cheating” on this Portrait Poll for TV’s couples (http://www.portraitmagazine.net ). The thing is, the fans don’t seem to be cheating when the site itself actually says “you can now vote as many times as you like”. One has to wonder if these Dan and Blair fans simply have difficulty reading, or if they are just upset that Chuck and Blair are in the poll and winning it whereas Dan and Blair are not even listed in the top couples to vote on? 

I rather liked this tumblr I found on this: http://maribells.tumblr.com/post/14538913459/signaturescarf-whatisfandom-source. Who knew there was sanity and people who could read in GGLand!?”

 

The March Hare: "I have noticed before that they struggle to understand Gossip Girl, so if I had to guess I would say this points to a failure in some education system.  I feel like cheating and rigging are fairly basic words, as is the phrase "now you can vote as many times as you like".  The fact that they do not seem to understand these words leads me to feel sadness for their parents and teachers.

 

 

Chapter 2: Trolling in the GGLand Deep  

 

Alice: “Speaking of questionable reading skills, we were combing through some fanfiction recently and this fandom’s responses there always have their share of “special” to them. Take this reaction from a Chuck and Blair fanfiction, where a “fan” commented with this:

 

'Correction this is how only chair fanatics who want blair with nobody else but chuck who abuses her wants dair to be.'  (http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at64126PM.png )

 

 

Remember this was from a Chuck and Blair fanfiction, so one of two things happened here. A Dan and Blair fan stumbled on this fanfiction and didn’t read that it said Chuck and Blair, or they intentionally read the fic and decided to comment on it because they were so offended. Now, tell me if I’m wrong here, but if you hate a couple you claim is abusive why are you reading this fanfiction? Do you think something categorized as Chuck and Blair means it’s about Dan and Blair? Is this another case of our elementary schools failing to teach basic reading skills across the nation? I actually wish that was the case, but I think it’s more of a Dan and Blair fan reading Chuck and Blair fiction and just being a troll who likes to put down a others’ work and preferences. A little note for fans who don’t like couples, yet read and comment on the fiction: You aren’t the target audience for that story (that’s why it specifically labels what couple the fic is about), nor does that writer care to please you. The main question I have for you is why are you reading about something you hate? I have a fear of snakes (which is why it’s remarkable I can wade through this fandom at all) - do you think I venture into snake houses at zoos? If you don’t like something, don’t go towards it and, for goodness sake, don’t make a comment that makes you look like an asshole unless your intention is to get made fun of.”

 

The March Hare: “See, this is where I get confused.  If a fic is labeled Chuck and Blair and you think they are awful and abusive, you may want to avoid that fic.  And in regards to commenting on it, I have to ask why? These are fictional characters.   If someone sees something differently, why call them names and try to bully them into seeing your point of view?  If your couple is awesome and great, go read their fics and discuss them.   I also think the abuse argument is one of those absolutes that make your whole argument invalid.  People only use it when they want a moral high ground that does not exist.”

 

 

Chapter 3: GGLand likes Screaming Abuse! 

Alice: ”The abuse card seems to get played a little too often in this fandom, and they even try to validate it with made up things they assume happened and count as fact. Take this post from Kid Chino on TWOP (Television Without Pity):

 

'If it wasn't domestic abuse then why did EL shoot a PSA about it? I think a lot of people are confusing domestic abuse with domestic violence. While all domestic violence is also domestic abuse, not all domestic abuse qualifies as domestic violence' - Kid Chino (TWOP)

( http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/kidchino.png )

 

 Either I missed an episode or senility has taken over, but I don’t recall a PSA coming on after this Gossip Girl episode and certainly not one that had Ed Westwick or Leighton Meester talking about abuse. Apparently those in the fandom can say a PSA was shot and it’s the absolute truth, yet no one saw this PSA and it was never discussed in the press. Does this mean I can say I’m a millionaire who married Brad Pitt and we have children together, and that’s the truth? Does it mean I’m Angelina Jolie now because I said so? Should I go find Brad and tell him I’m his wife so he’ll go along with it, too? And as far as the abuse argument goes, if you truly think there is abuse on this show and are so offended by it, why in the world are you watching? If you are so repulsed then why keep coming back to the show? It’s things like these that make this fandom so “unique.”

 

The March Hare: Oh, the mythical PSA. The funny thing is that the fact that they pretend this further proves how fictional it all is. Basically some people shot a PSA on set and had their pictures taken with Ed and Leighton, who were wearing the outfits from 4.20. Now, despite the fact that the companies website shows that they were working on a bone marrow campaign that Chace appeared on, suddenly there is an abuse PSA that for some reason never aired. 

Also this summer Just Jared asked Leighton who she thought was right for Blair Chuck, Dan or Louis and she chose Chuck. Is Leighton pro-abuse? I mean does she hate women and Blair? Or perhaps the writers and producers just haven’t told her yet that her character is in an abusive relationship. That must be it, because you know that if a blogger says it than it must be true. I mean what do the writers, directors, producers and actress involved know?”

 

Alice: This is why I’m glad you’re here, March Hare, I didn’t know what was being shot but it makes it that much worse that a noble promotion for the fight against cancer was twisted to try and fit some crazy fans delusions about their own issues with this show. Pertaining to harassing the writers and producers, it’s been done countless times already, so I wouldn’t be too shocked if they go after the actors themselves at some point all for the sake of fiction. 

Chapter 4: In GGLand Numbers are so Elusive!

Alice: Fans in the Fandom seem to have a hard time looking at numbers and rationally evaluating them. Take this fan who recently posted on TVLine:

Ausiello you are my hero, I agree about Dair!!! Never in my life have I seen show writers so scared of a loud group of fans on the internet, they are a minority! The casal fans outnumber us all and as long as it is not boring they will watch. Its ok to let Chair go writers, it really is no one will die and everyone will get over it eventually. Its a tv show for goodness sake!

 Alice: I’ve been studying fans of this fandom pretty closely and what fans react to and what they don’t. The biggest problem I have with blanket statements like these is everything they say is contradictory to what is actually happening in the fandom. If Chuck and Blair fans were so few and far between, and such a small group online, then I have to ask this fan why is it that Chuck and Blair recently trended worldwide http://signaturescarf.tumblr.com/post/13829749380/westwicks-chuck-blair-is-trending-worldwide (something that has not occurred on the show for any other couple at any time in its history)? In fact why when I’m on twitter (where I believe more casual fans are) at random times, are Chuck and Blair tweets far outnumbering Dan and Blair ones (here: http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Twitter1-1-12.jpg )?

Fanfiction for Chuck and Blair far outnumbers Dan and Blair ones and here are the results from January 14,2012 as an example: http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/fanfiction1-14-12.jpg Why are they leading polls not only against Dan and Blair, but against some of the most popular characters on tv? Here are just a few examples:

 

 http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at50236PM.png ( http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/12/31/sexy-tv-couples-2012-glee-vampire-diaries-gossip-girl-90210/)

 

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at53533PM.png)

(http://www.tvfanatic.com/2011/12/major-blair-louis-scene-ahead-on-gossip-girl/)

 

http://popconfidential.zap2it.com/2011/10/14/who-is-blair-waldorfs-soul-mate-on-gossip-girl (http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at54410PM.png )

 

http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/gossip_girl_poll_chuck_dan/277282 (http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at53947PM.png)

 

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at53037PM.png

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/12/21/hottest-tv-couples-2011-glee-vampire-diaries-pics/

 

http://www.youknowyouloveme.org/awards11/index.html

 

Why is it that on tumblr Chuck and Blair gifs have high numbers of notes like this http://gggifss.tumblr.com/post/8052581542, but I can’t find a DB one to even match it. I actually find the opposite of what this commentator is saying to be true. I find a loud group on GGAnon (who even admit they talk to themselves sometimes here: http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/anonips.png ) as the loud minority online. When we talk numbers I don’t see where blanket statements like these do one any good when they can’t back it up with anything. From what I can see “letting Chair go” seems a sure fire way to get this show canceled if the writers really care about their numbers.”

 

The March Hare: "I love how this one person knows everything about the casual fan. I also wonder about how he breaks down what should happen based on fan response. I mean, shouldn’t the writers tell the story that makes sense and is organic for the characters? I mean, I know the U.S is having a Presidential election in 2012 but will there also be a choose you own ending for Gossip Girl election? Because if polls are any indication, I think Chair has it, lol. 

Truthfully all indications I have seen from google trend searches (including the word gossip girl to get rid of irrelevant data) to polls to trending to just general searches show that the casual viewer wants Chuck and Blair. Actually I think the casual audience could care less about anything Dan related but, hey, if this person feels differently cool. But what is it they always say? Oh, yes, show us the receipts!!!”

 

Chapter 5 In GGLand “Journalists” Act like GG Fans

 

Alice: “The media in the Gossip Girl fandom seems to be just as childish as some of its fans. Case in point, Tierney Bricker who “reports” for Eonline.com. I don’t mind media having their opinions, but this reporter seems to have definitive bias towards Dan and Blair even in her recaps (just go check out all the reviews for Gossipgirl on Eonline.com). It’s not who she ships that matters but making childish statements like these that makes me have little respect for “journalists” and does not propel me to read their articles online: 

 

tbrick2 tierney bricker

 

In a dream world, #Glee's “Wemma” and #GossipGirl's “Chair” should have their own show, where they live on rainbows and eat unicorn shit.

 

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2012-01-08at122459PM.png

 

 

I understand that they have their preferences ,and I do understand all they want to do is rile up fans and create interest but do comments like these make her credible? Would fans believe what she was telling them? Do you trust “journalists” with biased opinions trying to sway fanbases? I don not.

I also want to say Tierney Bricker is not the worst when it comes to this issue and she can be unbiased at times. I have no problem with her actively liking a couple but I’m just wondering if you, as a reader, take journalist with biased at face value when reading their articles.

 

The March Hare:I think twitter has made journalists forget their actual job.  I know that sometimes getting a reaction and egging people on seems like a great idea, but you are an adult and at your job, so at the end of the day, this is probably a bad plan.   I follow a lot of TV journalists on twitter. I enjoy their opinions and ideas, and I like TV, so it all works out.  I also evaluate them based on their tweets.  The ones that seem unprofessional and crazy are usually the ones whose opinion I do not value.  Tbrick seems nice enough.  She likes her family and she seems to have a lot of friends in the critics’ community, and she also seems like she is having tons of fun, but sometimes she comes across as a young girl trying to get attention.  She is not as bad as her good friend cadlymack, but cadlymack is not trying to be a journalist.  She is trying to meet celebs that she has a crush on.  She is trying to befriend showrunners she likes.  There is no pretend there: she is just a girl who lucked into a job that helps her achieve these dreams.  More power to her.  No critics take her seriously and celebs/showrunners know her as a fangirl with a blog.  She can be ignored.  Tbrick is an issue because she is at eonline, which is more reputable a site despite being the source of all things Kardashian, so secretly the devil network.  I have noticed Chair and Dair fans disregarding her spoilers and constantly commenting how she is trolling.   Sort of brutal to kill your credibility even with the fanbase you are supposed to be helping.”

 

 

 

 

Chapter 6: In GGland Some Want What Others Have

 

Alice:  I ran across this on Tumblr. http://gelibass.tumblr.com/post/15511503839 Okay, I’ve seen fans say how much better Dair is than Chair and vise-versa but when fans come up with this sort of “art,” I have to take a step back and laugh. The “superior”  fanbase that Dan and Blair fans like to proclaim to be (<ahref=”http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/?action=view&amp;current=Screenshot2011-07-09at75609PM.png" target="_blank"><imgsrc="http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j434/Aliceinggland/Screenshot2011-07-09at75609PM.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>) have to use Chuck and Blair scenes to make manips of their beloved couple? I know Chuck and Blair have had the bigger, more iconic scenes of this show, but I thought Dair had some interesting scenes of their own in the past. I’m not sure why you would steal another couple’s scenes? Is it because yours is actually not as great as you proclaim? Maybe they aren’t as interesting or entertaining as another? I actually have a little bit of second-hand embarrassment for any fanbase who resorts to this. If you have to compare or put your couple in another couple’s scene, then I have to question why you are rooting for them if you just want what another pairing has? Another oddity in GGLand.”

 

 

The March Hare:OK. I laughed really hard when I saw the manip.  Personally, I hate all manips.  Chair, Dair, whoever, they freak me out.   I do wonder in general why DB fans are so desperate to compare their couple with another couple.  They were so excited by gossip girl mentioning 3 words 8 letters, they put Dan’s picture in the limo scene…I mean if Chuck and Blair is so done and awful, why do you want what they have so badly.   One thing I have noticed about great couples is that they are very rarely based on past couples.  People like something that stands on its own, and that is what stands the test of time.  It is like how I frequently see Dair fans compare Dan and Blair to Pacey and Joey.  How is that good for your couple?   When I talk about Chuck and Blair and what makes them fantastic I don’t have to mention another character’s name, but with DB there seems to be a desperation to make them into an old TV couple.  Now I realize that we are talking about a show that brags about its ability to plagiarize old literature and movies but… not many writers would settle for an inferior version of someone else’s work when they have a classic that they built themselves.”

 

 

Chapter 7: In GGLand Hypocrisy becomes you

Alice: “First off, I have no problem with people campaigning for couples or characters. It’s not an uncommon theme - shows from Chuck, Pushing Daisies, Jericho, and even soap operas have fans campaigning for them. Saying that, when I see fans making fun of other fans for doing so then starting their own I have to call that out.  I have seen things like this http://call-me-serena.dreamwidth.org/964.html this making fun of Chuck and Blair fans campaigning for their couple, but then I stumble across this: http://ivthegreatest.tumblr.com/post/15515057638/dear-dair-fans-reblog-this. Gossip Girl fandom, I’m confused right now. How is this any different from something  like this:http://savechuckandblair.tumblr.com/post/13557762594/we-knew-chuck-still-loved-blair-and-now-we-know ? It’s fine if you want to campaign, just don’t mock each other for campaigning and then turn around and do it yourself, and certainly don’t pretend trending doesn’t matter ( http://thespectatorxoxo.tumblr.com/post/13987219450/hypocrisy-irrelevant-gganon) and then plead and beg for other fanbases to help you trend. Come on, GGland, let’s not be this hypocritical.”

 

The March Hare:This is pretty embarrassing for them.  I have never understood why they are so judgmental about Chair fans organizing or planning.  That has happened with TV shows since the beginning of time.  Fans with similar likes flock together and campaign for what they want.  It is not new, and it is not exciting.  I do appreciate all the work they do pointing out to everyone else in the fandom how large and organized the Chuck and Blair sector is.  It is always helpful when your enemies do your work for you.   I also love how they have all looked down on the trending so much, and yet now are begging other fandoms to help them.   Again, they so badly want what Chair has, and they would kill for Dan to be Chuck but it is never going to happen so let it go.”

 

Chapter 8 In GGLand Writers Are Confused By What Fans Care About

 

Alice:We can’t have a Round Table without discussing the Gossip Girl writers. I think to see why fans are displeased with the show, you always have to go to its source and what the show is messing up for fans. One particular statement that interested me was this one by the head writer/producer of Gossip Girl, Josh Safran:

THR: The storylines seem to affect Blair more so than the other characters ..

Safran: It’s always been about the two girls (Serena and Blair) and their friendship has been the central conceit of the show and that remains very much the case this season. In the premiere, Serena’s in L.A. and Blair is in New York. Once they both get in New York, it’s very clearly still both of them. Serena will be returning to New York, which you’ll see in the second episode, at the end. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/gossip-girl-boss-talks-blairs-243166)

 Now, I don’t watch the show like I used to, but I have caught some of it on youtube just to do this Tumblr and I have seen very little that would indicate this show has been anything but about Blair this season. From the outset we saw this from Safran’s interviews ( http://www.tvline.com/2011/09/gossip-girl-season-5-preview-josh-safran/, http://entertainment.newsplurk.com/2012/01/gossip-girl-first-look-is-chuck-dead.html, http://www.popsugar.com/Blair-Waldorf-Wedding-Dress-Pictures-Gossip-Girl-Set-20418792, http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/10/12/blair-waldorf-pregnant-photos-leighton-meester/, http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/gossip-girl-boss-talks-blairs-243166) All Gossip Girl showrunners seem to be interested in is making this the Blair Waldorf show, even though the character of Blair Waldorf has lost her ability to make decisions and needs to be rescued by a male (but taking your strongest female lead and turning her into a whimpering fool is a whole new topic in itself). Even last year they were intent on this focus http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00040229.html despite the fact that it drove in the show’s lowest ratings the second half of last season. I do understand that Blair is a popular character and is one of the mains on this show, but very little has told me that this season has much to do with Serena. I’d say her screen time has been cut significantly, and with headlines like these that focus on “Blair and her men,” I don’t think that’s changing any time soon. As a fan of the first and second seasons, I always liked the balancing of story lines and the friendship Gossip Girl had built for Blair and Serena, and the rest of the cast as well. You would think Gossip Girl show runners would have evaluated their season last year and looked at what focusing on just one or two characters did - it had viewers changing the channel. I don’t know if it’s because they have a different show runner in Safran, or because hardly any of the original writers from season one and two are there. If I was a new writer, I think I would look at what worked and had audiences interested at one time instead of stubbornly banging my head against the wall and losing a once loyal fanbase.”

 

The March Hare:I agree with everything you are saying. I also think Josh himself explains the problems with the show. The Blair and Serena friendship has been the central conceit of the show since the beginning. That is why it worked. This season, the only signs I have seen that this friendship is important is when Josh speaks of it to a reporter. I think in total they have shared less than 10 scenes. Serena has had almost no role in Blair’s wedding or her pregnancy. Blair has shown no interest in anything related to Serena. They have taken away one of the best traits each girl had, which is their deep love for each other. How is Serena not realizing that Blair is falling apart? How is Blair ok with the way Dan treats Serena? Who are these characters?

‘Everyone Love’s Blair’ deserves its own discussion. No idea who decided to take an ensemble show and make it all about one character, but that person needs to be fired. I agree with you that Serena’s role has been dramatically reduced to allow this story to unfold at an incredibly leisurely rate. Right now the only thing that the writers seem to care about is the idea that every male character must love Blair, and that Blair can no longer make the most basic decisions. Its like just as they have made it so every man who meets her becomes obsessed with her, they have alternatively made Blair the most unappealing version of herself. Do you remember the Blair who could see through anyone? Do you remember the Blair who liked a takedown as much as sex and could do one in her sleep? Can you imagine this Blair doing a takedown? This Blair is being manipulated by Louis and Dan. This Blair has to confer with at least 2 people before making the most basic life decision. Way to wreck your best character, ggwriters.”

Our first Round Table comes to an end, but don’t fret because you fans are still out there and I’m still watching you.

A special thanks to the March Hare for participating,the White Rabbit for her dedication, and to my new recruit, the Cheshire Cat, who has dug up some great dirt.

Painting the Roses Red

GGAnon is trying to paint the white roses red. Please keep making my job easier with the delightful emails you send me:

Anyone who’s writing about the gg fandom should see this:

http://call-me-serena.dreamwidth.org/

Also, I just thought you should know you’re a total joke and everyone is laughing at you: 

http://anon-xoxo.livejournal.com/3891.html?thread=13571891#t13571891

I’d rather not be mentioned as a source on your tumblr. But if you must, I’d like to be either Snowdrop (Alice’s cat Dinah’s kitten in Through the Looking Glass) or THE JABBERWOCKY (badass and evil).

My little One of Clubs,


I already know both of these links, thank you very much, but they do show just how low the fandom can go. The audacity of fans to like and support a fictional character is such a crime against nature.Tsk,tsk. We should all personally attack every single Chuck Bass and Damon Salvatore fan for ever thinking they were allowed to like them! In fact, let’s jail them. That would teach them a lesson.

I think it’s in my favor as a human being that you and anon dislike me.

~xoxo Alice

Had an email like this? If you are willing to share contact me at aliceinggland@gmail.com. Just for your information: if you can’t give decent information, I don’t find you worthy to be a main character.

Someone’s Head Is going to Roll…

An AOS Queen contacted me recently. She seems to have seen my little tumblr essay and her temper has perhaps gotten the better of her. We all know how fairytales work, don’t we? When an evil queen feels threatened, she tries to poison the heroine with an apple, or prick her nimble finger to make her fall into a deep sleep, so she can do away with anything that threatens her. This queen, who could not even leave her name (Total Denial? ajjb? Covington? Bridget? Bright Eyes?), forgets I’m not Snow White or Sleeping Beauty. I’m Alice, and I can’t fall under a wicked spell. I might curtsy to you, placate you by drinking your mad tea, even play croquet with you – but by this tale’s end, the heroine will walk away unfettered. This is one of our Queen’s first moves:
 
 
"I will take a walk with you: entering such destinations as GGAnon, a
group called the AOS, a place called Fanforum, Twitter “abuse,” and many
other segways that will expose posters and groups who have turned this
fandom into the monster it has become. ” (Isn’t it nice to be quoted?)

You expelled anyone who didn’t ship Chair. So your blog gave way that
anyone who doesn’t love that Chuck treats Blair like shit are the problem instead of the character Chuck becoming a disgusting unshippable monster to many. There’s literally NO WAY to discuss what fandom turned into without talking about the spoiler ring, the way it was run, the girlsssss who made a site and spun illegal spoilers their way to make people hate on who they wanted them too, and SCAB, and how the AOS was created out of FUCKING DESPERATION to actually keep posting in a thread where discussion essentially expelled anyone who didn’t ship Chair for YEARS at fan forum.


So I can only conclude you just has a bone to pick, and will do so in a
wordy, long-winded, and completely uninteresting way. Which is too bad
because something like this could actually be interesting if it weren’t
a personal attack against anyone who doesn’t ship Chair.
 
gossipgirl@operamail.com

 Thank you for giving me more material. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this. You see, I was really hoping an AOS member would contact me and prove just how Evil Queens work when their empire is threatened. What this Mad Queen doesn’t recall from my previous essay is that I used to be a part of this fandom. Once upon a time, I started out in the world of Gossip Girl. In my fairytale, it is not about which couple one ships. As they say, fiction is fiction, and one can interpret it as they wish; it’s how Queens conduct themselves towards real people that make this fairytale grim. If any fans personally attacked you because you didn’t like characters they did, was it necessary for you to strike back at them? Did their boards get shut down by livejournal administrators like the first gganon did because they posted your personal email for people to bother you or sent out personal information on where you live? I know drama queens like to play victim and point a finger in another direction when mirrors are held up to them, but what you and your friends have done is spread hatred and discontent that affect real people. You use your computer screen as a shield and anonymously hide, but I know who you are. Your Queen of Hearts-esque temper has just made it easier for me to show just what kind of a childish sort of monster fuels the anger and hostility on Gossip Girl boards. I know the truth behind those spoilers and how fans threw angry tantrums when their powerful toys were taken away from them, but that is for a post yet to come. I gave you your fifteen minutes in my tale, but don’t worry, my AOS Queen, I have more dirt on you and your friends than anyone can imagine.
 
-xoxo Alice
 
 
If you have any information on the AOS, GGanon, or just a problem you’ve faced with these Queens, feel free to contact me: aliceinggland@gmail.com.
 
I will keep you anonymous and substitute it with an Alice in Wonderland character of your choice.

Gossip Girl Writers and “Constructive Criticism”

My first essay on the fandom was going to be on a site called GGAnon, but I’ve decided to save that for my next tumblr entry. Why? I’ve been monitoring the Gossip Girl Writers for several months, and last night their behavior caught me off guard. I was going to save this post for another time, but they inspired me, so I might as well begin my journey down the rabbit hole with them. After all, it is their pens that orchestrate the show and even the fandom into an erratic frenzy.

 

What caught my eye? Let’s take a look at how the writers chose to interact with their fans last night:

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

That way, all the “The next episode (I haven’t even seen yet) sucks cause there is no CB” or “No DAIR no CARE” tweets can go live there— 

— and we can discuss the show “Gossip Girl” here? Which is what we came here for.

23 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

(From your twitter account, the fan wars seem to be the one thing you

want. Why get upset with fans when you have tried to propel it more than they have? Look at your promotion for the season: Blair and her men)

 

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers 

We aren’t here just for niceness. But we do expect our criticism to be constructive.

11 hours ago Gossip Girl Writers 

(People give it to you, but you don’t seem to want to hear it. Example:

@Principessa04 2 links: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/dgpvnb , http://www.twitlonger.com/show/dhg59d )

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers 

Sunday: block day. Sorry it had to come to this, but there it is.

23 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

(Does this mean the people who don’t think your writing is something amazing have no opinion to you?)

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers  

@aalso_o We love to communicate with you. We don’t always love the negative repetition of certain thoughts; we heard you the first time! :)

11 hours agoGossip Girl Writers 

(Then why aren’t you acknowledging or listening to them?)

 

Writers blocking people because of getting spammed is one thing, but cutting off opinions because people just aren’t happy with the show does no one any favors. It tells fans their opinion doesn’t matter, and they’ll do whatever they want, fans be damned.

 

I’m perplexed at what the writers expected from their experience on twitter. Let me give you a little bit of a background on the writers twitter and what has transpired over the last few months of them tweeting with their fans. When my “White Rabbit” pointed me towards the account, I expected the writers to be discussing why they had written certain scenes in the past or what had inspired them to go certain directions with the show (because some of Gossip Girl’s plotlines and character motivations have been very questionable at times). Instead, I encountered this:

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers 

Writing, writing, writing. We eat, we sleep, we write. That is all.

27 Jul Favorite Retweet Reply

(I would hope. It is your job to write)

 

When they posted pictures, it contained irrelevant scenery, not show information.

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

LA2 http://ow.ly/i/f9vv

1 Aug Favorite Retweet Reply

(I like my picture more- http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/94477/Los-Angeles-skyline-at-sunset )

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

Piz! http://ow.ly/i/f9li

1 Aug Favorite Retweet Reply

(My Chair is better than yours http://tlg8gear.com/system/images/2733/original/LP_MLB_228_YANKEES.png?1294909554  )

 

It is their twitter, but maybe the fans didn’t expect this kind of interaction, either. Maybe they were looking for something substantial and some hints as to why the show became what it was. Even when they do talk the show, it doesn’t make sense:

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers 

@dont_stopmenow We brought Chuck’s mom back to life?

11 hours ago

It’s no wonder the show seems disjointed; it was written by people who either forget what’s been written or never remember their own plots.

 

I also found a rather ugly interaction that I need to call the writers out on. There’s a back story to this (I’m sure), but I found them being hostile to a board and people (fans) who ran that board. While the writers may have had reason to call these people out publicly, it was quite shocking to see these writers be so open hostile to anyone on their twitter. I only know what my “White Rabbit” is aware of, and I’m sure there is a much bigger story to this, but I’ll let you decide for yourself:

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

Not only do we know who runs the sssite…

13 May Favorite Retweet Reply

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

If any of them want to come clean,they know how to find us.

13 May Favorite Retweet Reply

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

If they come clean, we will spare them.

13 May Favorite Retweet Reply

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

If they don’t, they’ll get what’s coming to them

13 May Favorite Retweet Reply

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

We hope we didn’t scare you off! If you and your girlsss want to help us, no harm will come to you. If not, well, then no guarantees. :)

13 May Favorite Retweet Reply

 

 

I checked with my “White Rabbit” because she knew more about the fandom, the site they’re tweeting about, and the issue involved. Apparently, the finale’s script was leaked and the writers were blaming this site for those leaks. Of course, I told her that in that case the writers had reason to be upset. What I didn’t expect was the White Rabbit’s response: scripts had been leaked since the beginning of the season, and if you went on boards like Fanforum, it was very evident people had the scripts. I didn’t believe this until she showed me an email of a leaked script that was dated before the season even started. She also informed me that, in season three, a source name “blabz” spoiled that finale, too. Here’s the question: if spoilers were leaked through at least half of the season, don’t you think the writers would try to get their hands on whoever was leaking them instead of waiting until the finale and then calling them out on twitter? Shouldn’t you privately take care of your business? Instead they got the fandom to do their dirty work, causing others to continue accusations publicly.

 

Sun1225 Sun

@GGWriters Believe what ya want but they’re giving it in PMs on their new site.

2 Jun

 

in reply to 

@GGWriters

Gossip Girl Writers

@Sun1225 Once again, feel free to tell us what you think they’re PMing on their new site.

2 Jun via web

Favorite Retweet Reply

Acting this way perpetuated the hostility between fans even more. I signed up for the site they went after without posting, but I observed the board itself. Ironically, it’s one of the least hostile. It just seems the writers are more interested in the drama on their twitter (and causing it) rather than their own show. Which leads us to the show and the writers “not wanting fan wars”.

julieplec julieplec

by GGWriters

@

@GGWriters inaccurate spoilers? all hail Dair!

23 Aug Favorite Retweet Reply

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

@

We heart @julieplec.

23 Aug Favorite Retweet Reply

 

Which caused these reactions amongst a large group of fans:

thefatalflower Kate

by GGWriters

Feeling better and better about my decision to unfollow @GGWriters weeks ago. Good for my blood pressure and delicate shipper heart!

23 Aug Favorite Ret

 

At the time, I’ll note most on that twitter were Chuck and Blair fans. No, the writers would never try to start fans wars, not them. The plain truth is Gossip Girl does not have the fan following it did. It’s lost half of its audience since season two. Now the show has decided to get “buzz” through the most common and cheap design: triangles and fan wars. I always know a TV show is going down hill when characters that would never hook do, and the writers create a triangle to make the writing more interesting. Like thefatalflower, more grow weary rather than interested. Here’s a sign all is not as pretty on the show as they would have themselves believe:

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

Thank you, Entertainment Weekly, for the great review of 504! (Psst: 503, airing this coming Monday, is pretty awesome too!)

6 Oct Favorite Retweet Reply

Why wouldn’t a magazine owned by your own parent company give you some press or raving reviews? Alloy Entertainment (http://alloyentertainment.com/) owns both Entertainment Weekly and Gossip Girl. Why are the Gossip Girl writers so surprised and appreciative about receiving a “great” review when all Alloy Entertainment is trying to do is promote their own productions and generate money for themselves. This review hardly makes up for the gashing ratings, and I doubt it will bring back viewers who quit the show last year. Using the same formula that wrecked your ratings last year is just not the way to bring back those disheartened fans. Will this “great” (B+) review make up for what you are watching on your screen?

Speaking of  “things” on your screen:

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

And by the way, guys? Guest stars exist on every show. There would be no series without them. Why don’t you wait till you watch to judge?

12 Jul Favorite Retweet Reply

 

Fans are so opposed to guest stars because, after season two, the writers became guest star-happy and began to give the guest stars bigger stories and more of a point of view than their main characters. In season three, we had “Olivia” played by former Disney star Hilary Duff, whom the writers decided to focus more than the main cast in the storyline, Vanessa and Dan. Her story was more prominent than the popular pairing of Chuck and Blair, who were used mainly as background décor rather than a “priority” which Stephanie Savage (an executive producer of the show) had promised fans they would be.

They opted for the guest star’s story with Dan, who really is not the most popular of the characters on the show, so the ratings took a hit. In season four, we were introduced to Juliet Sharpe. It began as an intriguing storyline but then extended five episodes past what it should have been, leading to more guest stars with Ben and the introduction of the Thorpes. During this period, we saw Dan and Blair interacting only with each other, while Serena and Chuck never interacted with their former love interests for a majority of the second half. Instead, they became irrelevant in their own stories as the guest stars’ point of views were more important to the writers. If the actors had been remotely good, maybe the audience would have cared, but they were not. The fans care about what the writers gave us in seasons one and two: the main characters.

 

This is not the first time the writers have threatened to leave their twitter account.

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

So either find a way to express your opinions (negative ones too, of course) without anger or spite towards your fellow Tweeps, or we’ll go.

25 Aug Favorite Retweet Reply

(But I thought you don’t want to hear negative opinions.)

 

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

We respect your passion and opinions, but if the anger and blame keep up, we are going to sign off Twitter. This is not what we came for.

25 Aug Favorite Retweet Reply

 

The only problem with the writers continually tweeting this is it’s an empty threat. This show needs buzz because after season two, it has been slowly dissipating. The Network itself barely focused on promoting this show this summer and focused its energy on higher rated shows like The Vampire Diaries, or incoming shows like Ringer. Gossip Girl has been dethroned as the “flagship” show of this network. It’s aging and showing it in every episode.

 

Writers, you cannot treat your fans like they aren’t as intelligent as you are. You cannot force stories upon them and expect them to be thrilled with them and praise you. These people are dedicated to your show, have followed it for years and want to be excited for it. Give them something they are excited about but complaining on twitter because they aren’t loving everything you write is not professional. If you expected the experience to be different, all you had to do was check message boards, twitter, and your ratings to figure out what you were stepping into. The irony in all of this, writers, is you wrote what people are so dissatisfied with. You have only brought this on yourself. You could have fixed it, but you went back to formulas from last season that the audience didn’t like and was unwilling to accept. I think it would be beneficial for the writers to remember their own words:

GGWriters Gossip Girl Writers

@amands87 Thank YOU. Without you, there’d be no us!


Next time it’s you turn GGAnon

~xoxo Alice

My name is Alice, and this tumblr is a look into the descentof one fandom from an enthusiastic, fun-loving ride to a poisonous, disingenuous battleground that has slowly become the show it represents. What is my purpose in doing this? I was once a fan who posted and enjoyed conversing about the show with my peers. It was a privilege to get online and discuss this guilty pleasure that graced my screen every Monday night. After season two, my priorities and life began to change, and Gossip Girl was something that I didn’t have time for anymore. Though I left the show and the fandom, the friends I made stood by the program despite their deepeningdiscontent as time marched on. One day, I asked my friend why she was so displeased with this television show, and her initial response didn’t surprise me. She informed me the love she once had was dying. I responded that that wasn&#8217;t uncommon as a show aged, but what came out her mouth next threw me off guard and made me start this tumblr. It wasn’t the show that was so terrible to her, but the people who she and I once posted with on message boards. She proceeded to dissect what the fandom had begun to turn into, and I suddenly became fascinated. What had turned my beautiful, calm friend into a raging mess? Like Alice upon entering Wonderland, my curiosity was peaked, so what did I do? I followed the White Rabbit down the hole, and what I discovered was a world similar to that fictional girl&#8217;s. It was one of upheaval; littered with angry “queens,” march hares, and ugly Jabberwockies. A group I once cherished conversing with had turned into something I didn’t recognize. If you’re willing, I’ll take you through that journey. I’ll rehash all of the bickering, all of the hypocrisy, and all of the secrets of the Gossip Girl Fandom. What does this entail, you wonder? With a little help from my friends and you, I will take a walk with you: entering such destinations as GGAnon, a group called the AOS, a place called Fanforum, Twitter “abuse,” and many other segways that will expose posters and groups who have turned this fandom into the monster it has become. I won’t always be the teller of these tales; I have a Mad Hatter and a few other friends in this Wonderland that are more than willing to drop by on occasion. Just call me Alice and let me welcome you to GGLand. 
~xoxo Alice

My name is Alice, and this tumblr is a look into the descentof one fandom from an enthusiastic, fun-loving ride to a poisonous, disingenuous battleground that has slowly become the show it represents. What is my purpose in doing this? I was once a fan who posted and enjoyed conversing about the show with my peers. It was a privilege to get online and discuss this guilty pleasure that graced my screen every Monday night. After season two, my priorities and life began to change, and Gossip Girl was something that I didn’t have time for anymore. Though I left the show and the fandom, the friends I made stood by the program despite their deepeningdiscontent as time marched on. One day, I asked my friend why she was so displeased with this television show, and her initial response didn’t surprise me. She informed me the love she once had was dying. I responded that that wasn’t uncommon as a show aged, but what came out her mouth next threw me off guard and made me start this tumblr. It wasn’t the show that was so terrible to her, but the people who she and I once posted with on message boards. She proceeded to dissect what the fandom had begun to turn into, and I suddenly became fascinated. What had turned my beautiful, calm friend into a raging mess? Like Alice upon entering Wonderland, my curiosity was peaked, so what did I do? I followed the White Rabbit down the hole, and what I discovered was a world similar to that fictional girl’s. It was one of upheaval; littered with angry “queens,” march hares, and ugly Jabberwockies. A group I once cherished conversing with had turned into something I didn’t recognize. If you’re willing, I’ll take you through that journey. I’ll rehash all of the bickering, all of the hypocrisy, and all of the secrets of the Gossip Girl Fandom. What does this entail, you wonder? With a little help from my friends and you, I will take a walk with you: entering such destinations as GGAnon, a group called the AOS, a place called Fanforum, Twitter “abuse,” and many other segways that will expose posters and groups who have turned this fandom into the monster it has become. I won’t always be the teller of these tales; I have a Mad Hatter and a few other friends in this Wonderland that are more than willing to drop by on occasion. Just call me Alice and let me welcome you to GGLand. 

~xoxo Alice